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turbo on gas tractor?

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kyle boettcher

03-15-2007 14:39:58




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I found a small turbo off of some desiel engine, was woundering if I could make it work on a case 300 gas or a farmall H or M. Has anyone out there done this, if so did it work or fail. just playing around here, thought it would be neat to here a turbo on those tractor rides.




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RodInNS

03-16-2007 07:23:44




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
I don't know a whole lot about turbo's, but I know a few things. First, you'll notice that a lot of diesel turbo's have 2 inlets in the exhaust portion, so you will find that it may want the matching manifold. A single inlet would probably be better for what you want.
The next big problem I see is getting fuel to the engine.... If you've got a pressurised intake, gravity fed gas isn't going to work.... There are ways around this. I think they build air boxes around the carb to pressurise the atmosphere around the carb, or something to that effect anyway..... I've never done it. Fuel injection makes these problmes so much simpler.
Beyond that, turbo's have ratings. They move so many lb/min of air, and those ratings, and the turbo's themselves are a factor of what the engine draws in 1 atmosphere, plus how much boost you want to add. It's really a fairly technical thing. Other than the inlet issue, a turbo is pretty much a turbo.... other than sizing considerations. Don't assume that because the turbo came off a diesel engine that it will actually help you. It could hinder if it's too small.... That's about all I know on the subject.

Rod

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mj

03-16-2007 06:32:50




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
If you can find some info on the 1965 IH Scout turbo-charged 4-
cylinder it may give you some insight on how it was done before electronic controls came on the scene.



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1206SWMO

03-15-2007 15:07:22




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
In the tractor pulling world its been done for nearly 40 years.Numerous gas fueled pulling tractors ran turbos starting around 1969-70.I can remember (3) M Farmall pullers with turbos in my part of the country in the early 1970's.They made some pretty good horsepower.

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mjbrown

03-15-2007 15:05:27




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
You would need to burn something like racing fuel or alcohol if you pack too much air into it due to detonation. Diesel turbos put out something like 16psi, gas turbos about 6psi. Gas engines are controlled with a butterfly that restricts the intake of fuel air mix, so you have a turbo trying to cram in more air and a butterfly restricting it except at wide open throttle. You could get around the detonation problem with water injection. Kind of makes a good reliable gas tractor less so and less user friendly. Could be fun though if you can live with the risk to your tractor. Have fun!

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RAW in IA

03-15-2007 14:56:00




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
I new a guy back in the early 70's who put a turbo on a Massey (don't remember the model) he used for tractor pulling. Said it worked good if they let him get it wound up before the load came on too much.



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old

03-15-2007 14:45:56




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 Re: turbo on gas tractor? in reply to kyle boettcher, 03-15-2007 14:39:58  
It could probably be done but the big problem is if you build the top of the engine and don't do any thing to the bottom you can/will blow the bottom out of them.



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