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Wyokid

03-08-2007 09:46:50

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Allen,
Following your diesel fuel woes. I get mine from Pan Handle Co-op's local dealer in Burns, Pan Handle gets theirs from the Cenex refinery. As I understand it from the fuel contract meeting I went to in January regular off-road diesel (ULSD) has no additives for lubricity, the customer has to add it (PS or Howells). What they call "Ruby" (premium ULSD) has 2% soy diesel added to provide the lubricity. The ruby costs .03 more per gallon> I've been using the ruby since I took over the farm in 97, seems to give me a little better power, higher cetane value and probably cleans the injectors more (better) than reg. diesel. BTW I contracted for 2.31/gal for Mar-may delivery and 2.34 for May-Aug. HTH

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RickL

03-09-2007 02:33:28

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Wyokid, 03-08-2007 09:46:50

I agree the fuel additive thing is all in sellers head personally. I have never used any period in gas or diesel and have never had engine down period. Mail route vehicles average over 300,000 for they go to scrap yards and all tractors are now pushing 7000 hrs and have never been touched for anything other than regular changes. I have always run the gasohol since the beginning of it and last year ran the soydiesel at 50/50 blend going for 70/20 this season.

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Clint Youse MO

03-08-2007 16:45:15

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Wyokid, 03-08-2007 09:46:50

only problem I have heard of with any one around here is there is a big farmer that collects olivers and runs 20% biodiesel(soy) and filled his Super 99 diesel out of the farm tank and the old rubber in the pump started to leak and had to be replaced about gasket I thank was 20 dollars and he put it in himself. just that biodiesel is a little harder on old rubber new gasket same fuel no problem.

Clint

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Tim Shaw

03-08-2007 14:44:36

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Wyokid, 03-08-2007 09:46:50

Take this for what it"s worth but I just talked to the mechanic at our local NH dealer two days ago. He said that they"ve been seeing a lot of injection pump failures lately. A lot more that usual. Talk to your fuel suppliers and get the low down. Ours said the needed additives are in the ruby diesel but that may not be the case with every supplier. Power service is cheap compared to injection pumps. It"s your money.

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Allan In NE

03-08-2007 10:05:19

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Wyokid, 03-08-2007 09:46:50

I'll bet you and I get our fuel out of the same darned tank. :>)

I just can't buy into this "sky is falling" scare anymore.

Have just heard it too darned many times over the years and it seems like this or that is always aimed at separating the little feller from his money.

Now, if all my diesels somehow mysteriously end up with bad pumps after a recent load of fuel, I'll listen. Until then, however, I'll just trust the Co-Op to deliver me a useable product.

And besides, that diesel is pretty slimy stuff; just don't think it needs any "lube". :>)

Allan

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Bob

03-08-2007 18:07:40

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 03-08-2007 10:05:19

Geez Allan....

My old 4020 pushed snow for 5 hours again today burning the cheapest #2 around with no leaks or injecton pump failures...Oh well maybe tomorrow the "bad" fuel wll catch up with me... or NOT???

P.S.... The PowerChoke hasn't dropped dead yet either!

Guess we'd better buy Stanadyne and Powerservice stockv!

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RustyFarmall

03-08-2007 10:54:18

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 03-08-2007 10:05:19

I was always under the impression that it was the responsiblity of the fuel supplier to provide a product that was not in any way damaging to the engine it would be used in, and if the engine was damaged due to the fuel, it was the responsiblity of the supplier to foot the bill for the repairs.

I think there are a bunch of opportunists out there who are taking advantage of this scare and raking in the profits from the sale of diesel fuel additives.

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Allan In NE

03-08-2007 11:37:36

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to RustyFarmall, 03-08-2007 10:54:18

Yes,

That is what he is saying.

The vendor, who in this case is the "customer" from the supplier, either sells it across the pump at his station or bulks it out to the end user.

Either way, it is up to him add any "required reading" as necessary, not you and I.

When we finally buy the soup (at the highly inflated price of course), it should be ready to go. And no, we don't have to run to Mama Stanadyne for protection from the big bad wolf.

That is nothing but a well timed, well placed marketing strategy/hype/scare and why I don't like that low-balling outfit.

"Conditioner", my backside. :>)

Allan

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RustyFarmall

03-08-2007 12:59:06

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 03-08-2007 11:37:36

Thank you Allan, that was exactly what I was trying to say.

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Luke S

03-08-2007 11:48:04

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 03-08-2007 11:37:36

Thank you Allan. That last post was what I was thinking but couldn't figure out how to say!

I frequent Dieseltruckresource.com and those goof balls all talk about how they mix 16oz two cycle/8oz MMO/2.34574382940 oz of ATF and they have been putting it in every tank for the last 1,200 miles and haven't had one problem! No joke? I poured straight #2 diesel in my old 92' Dodge for 300k and never had a problem either, go figure? I must just be lucky I guess.

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Wyokid

03-08-2007 10:18:07

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Re: Allen in NE in reply to Allan In NE, 03-08-2007 10:05:19

I hear what you're sayin'. I've got an 89 JD4255, I think it has a Bosch pump, I've had it turned up to 150 horse. I only use about 2000 gallons a year so at .03/ gallon not a big deal-specially with that 5.00 wheat LOL.

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