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Dawn 09

03-07-2007 09:25:26




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Im doing a school project on antique tractor pulling. Its more like a paper that im writing but i have some questions that have been left unanswered! here they are..... #1. how was antiuqe tractor pulling started?
#2. Who started it?
#3. Why was it started?

if you can answer these and are 99% sure that your right please repsond i need all the info i can get!!

thanks so much




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MIAPULLER

03-08-2007 21:38:49




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
I read in book one time it was something like 1924 or 1926 and it was in the south, like KY, or TN, i believe it was KY though. The first my family started pulling was in 1952.



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John B. --NE Ind.

03-07-2007 21:57:40




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
Tractor supply has a book on tractor pulling that gives the date, town and year of the first recorded tractor pull. I have a copy but right now someone has borrowed it again. I believe its called "The Pull." You can also order it direct from the full Pull Magazine. Tell them what your looking for and Joe or Carol will take care of you. The home number is 309-348-3537. Great reading with lots of pictures. Tell them John B. from Arcola Ind. told you to call.

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High Octane

03-07-2007 18:38:19




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
I asked a simular question to an elderly gentleman about 15 years ago. he owned a 38 JD G which his father had purchased new. In 1940, local farmers had a severe case of bordom, and decided to hook back to back with a log chain and see who can pull his dad"s G backwards,, he reported with a smile, said nobody could budge the big G. 5 years later, they built a sled, whats called a deadweight sled, which just like described earlier,,, stacked large concrete blocks on what looked like a large dog sled. They took turns trying to move the sled with the blocks stacked on as each round went on. They had this style pulling up to the late 50"s then the trasfer sleds came around. Crude in design, but it gave everybody a running start, or a chance to actually move the sled. Today, the same deadweight pull is still going on strong,, (had a 20 year break) until locals once again got bored, and dug out their old sled. Its held right on the street, in front of a Church, and it can go on for days!! The name of the town, Roann, Indiana. I can put you in touch with the gentleman that told me the story from first hand experience if you need to hear the story from somebody who was there. He still pulls the G JD today!! after all those years of pulling history.

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mj

03-07-2007 17:31:19




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
First one I ever saw was in 1956 or 57 in W. Central Illinois. They were pulling a dump-box from a truck and just kept adding dirt to it as they went up in tractor size.



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msb

03-07-2007 12:00:03




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 Dead Weight Pulls Came First in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
Pretty much like horse pulls except they used tractors. Concrete blocks were stacked on a mudboat. The contestant had to pull the sled 10 feet,I think. If everyone pulled the sled then more concrete blocks were added until only the winner was left. Is that correct old timers. I never went to a dead weight pull.Too slow for me.



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georgeky

03-07-2007 16:39:23




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 Re: Dead Weight Pulls Came First in reply to msb, 03-07-2007 12:00:03  
msb. That is how it's done we refer to it as a tug pull. I like it alot better than the big sled you get to play all night long. Sometimes till 7 or 8 the next morning. It probably is a little boring to spectators but it is for real farm tractors. The antique's do a lot better at this than the newer tractors. Weight and horse power were matched up better for dead pull.



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JMS/MN

03-07-2007 11:01:14




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
In most any neighborhood, farmers would brag about how strong their tractors were, especially typical between Farmalls and John Deeres. So they'd back one to the other, hook up a chain, and see who could pull the other. That gets dangerous when the chain breaks. Early organized tractor pulls used a steel plate for a sled, and people were stationed along the track to jump on the sled to add weight as the tractor pulled the sled. That led to the development of the current type of load- a sled that gradually pulls a concrete weight up an incline on the sled, thus increasing the load on a gradual and consistent basis. Search for more info from NTPA- National Tractor Puller's Association.

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Phil Munson NY

03-07-2007 10:57:11




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
Dawn:

Perhaps a search for the National Antique Tractor Pullers (NATPA) might yield some useful information. The National Tractor Pullers Association pulls modern tractors, Modified tractors, (car, airplane, truck engines, etc), and pickups. The cost level is so great that not everyone can participate.

Antique tractor pulling deliberately invloves older, less costly machines that allow many more to participate. Different classes, divisions, I - V, allow different thresholds of improvements, modifications, to maintain fair competition for the respective classes. Division I is pretty much pure, or bone, stock. This allows "po" folks, such as I, to participate and have fun without putting a second mortgage on the farm. Division V involves engines extensively modified to the extent of KK$$. Because Division I involves more skill, and LOTS less money, it is my favorite.

Hope this helps. best, Yeoman

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Nebraska Cowman

03-07-2007 10:38:23




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
It started when cain killed Abel cuz Abel had sheep and all Cain wanted to do was farm. I don't think Abel even had a tractor.



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huntingreen

03-07-2007 10:15:36




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
I imagine it started at county fairs where there were mule and horse pulls. After most people had gotten rid of their work animals. Fairs probablly needed something to draw crowds so they started inviting farmers to bring their tractors in and pull them. JMO



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steve from mo - dangit!

03-07-2007 09:35:42




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to Dawn 09, 03-07-2007 09:25:26  
Dawn,

If you want to get into the organized tractor pulling aspects, try and google tractor pulling organizations. You can find references to several in the Tractor Pulling Forum on this website. The language there is not always suitable for young ladies, however.

If you want to know more about the general idea of tractor pulling, imagine two farmers bragging about how strong their respective horse teams were, and how a very informal contest was scheduled with a stone boat. A stone boat was a wooden drag used to haul stone picked or dug manually out of a farmer's fields. Then they got tractors and started their bragging again, and their contest was resumed.

Good luck.

Steve

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mike a. tenn.

03-07-2007 09:45:55




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to steve from mo - dangit!, 03-07-2007 09:35:42  
i was gonna say that it prolly started when two good'ol' boys with nuthin' better to do at the time, got to braggin' on they hoss or tractor...but if she'da wrote it that way she'da prolly got as bad a grades as i usta get.

i like your version much better. and you're right...maybe she can find out when it first got to be an "organized" event, and who or what organization started it... on the "pulling forum".

as big as NASCAR is today, it started from a buncha guys just wanting to see who had the fastest car.

-mike

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GeneMo

03-07-2007 20:33:08




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 Re: School Project Need Help!!!! in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-07-2007 09:45:55  
To my recollation, in the late 1960's local groups started having tractor pulls as money raising events, or just for fun, and the idea was to have farmers bring their tractors in out of the fields, as they were, with no modifications. I helped with some early ones in our area in about 1969. The tractors were classed by weight, then hooked to a big flat piece of steel, big enough to place a smaller tractor on for extra weight. Chairs were place at intervals, individuals sat in those chairs on each side of the track. As the tractor pulled the "sled" down the track, the people setting in those chairs would step on the moving sled as it went past. This added weight. If you had to leave you chair to take a break, you had to find a replacement about the same weight! In the bigger classes, a tractor was placed on the sled, and people still stepped on as it went past. Whoever pulled it the farthest won.

Well then people got to souping up the tractors, spending big bucks and a lot of the originators became disenchanted. It was supposed to be for working tractors, not hot rods (or so they felt).

About that time antique tractors were becoming popular. I pulled mine out of a fencerow in 1979. It had been abandoned there about 30 years prior. The antique tractor pullers felt this was a way to get back to the basics, pulling original tractors that had not been modified. Of course rules had to be put in place to keep folks from souping up the antiques. But their are still people who fudge, cheat or what have you.

Whatever sport you pick, archery, shooting, soccer, baseball, someone will want to push the edge of the envelope. Whoever has the most money wins!!!


Gene

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