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landscape timbers/fence post

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ric1

03-03-2007 03:33:11




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is there any difference in landscape timbers than the round post are they made with the same treated process?




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Dan in Houston

03-05-2007 18:52:07




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
Don't use them. The builder used them to build the fence around our townhouse complex. After 5 years over half have rotted off at the ground. They last just long enough for the builder to get clear of the job.



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1936

03-03-2007 14:11:38




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
You shall meet your self coming back to replace the timbers. Never liked work where I would repeat it in my life time.



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Ken B.

03-03-2007 14:54:01




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to 1936, 03-03-2007 14:11:38  
I used some about 15 years ago on a house fence . When I replaced it 2 year ago the were all rotten . Depends how long you need them. I thought. I would move before they rotted off so I used them again .



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old

03-03-2007 08:44:59




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
I've been useing them for 10 plus years and got them at wal-mart and there still strong and holding up well. I used a Cat 950 loader tractor to push them into the ground and they held up under the 40,000 of that machine



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paul

03-03-2007 08:09:39




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
Typical landscape timbers are made from poorer wood & lightly treated - dipped, not pressured. They do not make any kind of post at all - rot off or break off in a short time. The are designed to settle on the dirt & sorta hold their form as they decompose - not have any long-term strength.

You can find premium quality landscape timbers if you look hard. But they cost as much as fence posts, so no point to it.

--->Paul

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Sand Flat Bob

03-03-2007 06:23:16




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
It all depends, I have some that have been in the ground since the 1970's. Our soil is about neutral. Around here, you can get cheap dipped or about twice as much $$, pressure treated landscape timbers. The big box stores normally have the cheap type, wouldn't use them as posts. They also come in different sizes,diameter that is, so as I said, it all depends.

Bob



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SuperA-Tx

03-03-2007 06:21:35




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
Landscape timbers when they first came out about 20 years ago were about twice as thick as now days. After Wal Mart started carrying them the size started shrinking until now they are almost not even useful for landscaping. They are made from sapling pines and bow and warp so bad I wouldnt want them for anything.



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Matt in TN

03-03-2007 06:04:01




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
My opinion is they are a bit thin to use for fencing in livestock. They also rot in the ground quicker than a thicker post. I do use them for horizontal brace posts, and they've held up well for that application.



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williamf

03-03-2007 04:29:30




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to ric1, 03-03-2007 03:33:11  
Some landscape timbers are pressure treated and will last as well as treated 4x4s. Others, which will cost less, are treated with the same chemical but are "treated to refusal," that is they're just soaked for a while. It's hard to impossible to tell by looking at them, you have to check the tag closely. If it doesn't say "Pressure Treated" it's not going to last very long in the ground. Good luck, Wm

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Dig It

03-03-2007 04:32:18




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 Re: landscape timbers/fence post in reply to williamf, 03-03-2007 04:29:30  
We call them " dipped and shipped". Look at the end grain, you can se how little has penetrated. They are okay for above grade applications but I wouldn't use them for a below grade application.



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