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Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 load

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Steven@AZ

02-28-2007 18:49:50




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Here is a video of our 1256 with the Farmhand 235 loader on it. I think it's a pretty useful outfit, a nice size for getting around the corrals and pretty much large enough to handle those big round bales. I thought I had pictures on my computer, but no.

The only time we have had issues has been hauling manure and using the grapple fork to get a bigger load on - broke front end a couple times, spindle at least twice and then broke the main casting where the tube pivots once.

I like the shifting on it, 2nd gear high and reverse works out nice. Wish ours had the foot feed throttle to speed things up, though.

One thing I've noticed is that Allan is going to use the tractor hydraulic system to run the loader... Do you have the high volume pump? I ran a Hydro 86 with loader run through the system and it was SLOW. Our 1256 has a 540 PTO pump on it with separate reservoir and controls, makes it move nice and quick.

Anyway, always nice to see you guys sharing pictures - keeps my homesickness for the farm somewhat in check. I'll try to take and share more pics when I'm home in April and July...

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Allan In NE

03-01-2007 02:48:59




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-28-2007 18:49:50  
Darnit Steve!

You've just succeeded in scarin' the he!! out of me! :>)

Yeah, I've got the big pump and a new front end rebuild, but that front hangin' weight just absolutely drives me crazy. Dunno, I'm wondering if some under-bridging and cross-trussing isn't in order for the front axle?

Why can’t I use the narrow grapple head off my F-11? Aren’t they the same identical hook up? I know they do measure the same width on the dozer blade? Getting rid of that big heavy bucket would sure lighten the empty weight by about a 1,000lbs.

I sure like the quick way they hook/unhook tho. That’s just the cat’s meow. :>)

Allan

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Cliff Neubauer

03-01-2007 06:09:59




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 02:48:59  
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Allen, I wouldn't be too worried about breaking the front axle as long as you use some common sense. I try not to carry a bale on the loader unless I have one on the 3pt to counterbalance the weight on the loader and that helps alot. Our round bales are 5x6' bales out of a JD 566/567 baler and in the six years we had a loader on our 826 it was moving 500-600 bales a year, often 2-3 times a year and we never broke anything on the front axle which is alot lighter than what you have on your 66 series. When we took the loader off it we did discover than just about every wear part on the front axle was worn out but it had 11,000 hours and the front axle had never been rebuilt.

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Steven@AZ

03-01-2007 05:03:51




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 02:48:59  
Like I said, we've never had trouble with it handling BALES, even two at a time! The wet manure in a snow bucket and using the grapple to get an even bigger load is what causes problems.

We did beef up the front end after it broke the last time, but all that does is show you the next weakest link.

Don't worry, you won't break it if you use common sense. And yes, your fork from the F11 will fit right on.

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Allan In NE

03-01-2007 07:47:26




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Steven@AZ, 03-01-2007 05:03:51  
Thanks Buddy!

That little 5 foot fork will tame that big chunk of iron and my fobias too. :>)

Allan



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TGIN

03-01-2007 04:10:47




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 02:48:59  
Allan , I`ve got a little 574 with a 2250 QT loader , the mounts just bolt to the holes on the side with no cross member . I`ve had some real loads on it without a problem . I`ve used it to load logs alot and a 16'x30" white oak can put some wait out front , always put a log on the bale carrier on the back to hold it down . I`m talking dry ground and first gear . I have changed front wheel bearings several times but that could be from creek water . I`ve had it sence 1981 and I was a little ruffer on stuff back then than I am now .

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Allan In NE

03-01-2007 04:20:43




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to TGIN, 03-01-2007 04:10:47  
It really is amazing how things have evolved over the years.

I still have that image burnt into my mind of the old hay rack and that darned pitch fork. Every day, it was out to the field to manually get enough hay to get the critters fed because there was no such thing as loaders and hay movers.

Now, it's just a matter of pushin' a little button, sit back and watch things happen. :>)

Allan

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TGIN

03-01-2007 04:28:04




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 04:20:43  
Who`s buttons are you pushin in that picture ??



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IaGary

03-01-2007 03:16:21




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 02:48:59  
Now just calm down Allan.

That front end will be just fine under there if you use some common sense.

Every machine that is built can be broke if you abuse it enough.

Hauling a bucket full of manure that is as big as a bale of hay is alot heavier than that bale of hay.

When I worked at the weld shop we had certain customers that could break a D8 cat blade if they had one. Others can run a D8 all there lives and not bust a blade.

I've been using front loaders for 34 years now to handle bales and never broke a axle. First one was on a 460 with narrow front.

You will be just fine.

Gary

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Allan In NE

03-01-2007 03:50:25




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to IaGary, 03-01-2007 03:16:21  
Yeah, I know.

But, if I can take any un-necessay weight off, it sure couldn't hurt could it? Howard did it on his and I'd guess that my fork is even lighter yet.

Allan

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IaGary

03-01-2007 04:00:57




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 Re: Cliff Neubauer and Allan in NE - Farmhand 235 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-01-2007 03:50:25  
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Now if you really want to get the weight off get one of these.

I know you loose your grapple but if the tines are at the bottom of the frame you can use it as a forklift also.



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IaGary

03-01-2007 04:30:10




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 Heres a better view. in reply to IaGary, 03-01-2007 04:00:57  
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If you had any trees out there they are great to pick up logs also. (:~})



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Tim...Ok

03-01-2007 04:42:40




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 Re: Heres a better view. in reply to IaGary, 03-01-2007 04:30:10  
thats what we use Gary,I'm sure the grapple would be handy,but those forks are OK by me..

Tim



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Ken Macfarlane

03-01-2007 05:07:32




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 Re: Heres a better view. in reply to Tim...Ok, 03-01-2007 04:42:40  
The only guys using a grapple out here are those with bunkered silage. Even then most just use a snow bucket on the loader.

Spears only for round bales, squeezes only on wrapped silage bales.



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