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Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters

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David in Wales

02-28-2007 01:53:10




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Mornin' Allan;
As an old fashioned sort of a guy who mistrusts electrics & electronics, I thought you may be interested in this system.
Lewis Loaders who specialise in loaders & backhoes for compact tractors in England, have a unique valve for operating front loaders.
Normal 4 way north-south-east-west single lever to operate loader & bucket.
The hydraulic lever is J shaped like a small walking stick. To operate 3rd service (like clam bucket or grapple fork) you twist the lever left or right by turning your wrist - follow me?
Do you also remember the International tracked loading shovels? They used a normal single lever for loader & bucket. Your arm rested on a U shaped bracket set further back - to operate 4in1 bucket you moved the "arm rest" left or right with your arm movement.
To my idea levers that connect into something are far more reliable than electric wires (feel the same about gear levers going directly into gear box with mechanical linkages.
Just a few thoughts from a grumpy old fashioned agricultural engineer stuck in the mid-1960's. LoL Cheers David

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Ken Macfarlane

02-28-2007 05:33:14




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to David in Wales, 02-28-2007 01:53:10  
6 way blade on a a Case crawler I drove, hmm an 850 worked the same way.



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IaGary

02-28-2007 03:26:01




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to David in Wales, 02-28-2007 01:53:10  
Hello David.

I'm about the same when it comes to electronics instead of mechanical but I have one of those splitters and it has been trouble free for 6 years.

It uses the same type of selonoid (sp) that the IH combine has been using for 25 years. They seem to hold up fairly well.

Gary



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Allan In NE

02-28-2007 04:16:55




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to IaGary, 02-28-2007 03:26:01  
How does that work?

If both solenoids are "off", no juice applied, as in, if you would happen to leave the switch off, does the fluid deadhead?

I ran a continuity test on the switch and the "off" position of the switch applies power to one solenoid and "on" throws the voltage over to the other unit.

Allan



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IaGary

02-28-2007 04:26:24




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to Allan In NE, 02-28-2007 04:16:55  
With the switch untouched its a straight thru deal on the oil flow.

When you press the switch it pulls both pluggers across and redirects the oil to the other hoses to run the other cylinder.

You want to plumb it so that it is a direct flow to the cylinder you want to use the most.

Both solenoids are activated when the switch or power is applied.

Change your wires around on the solenoids to acheive this.

Gary

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Allan In NE

02-28-2007 05:01:17




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to IaGary, 02-28-2007 04:26:24  
Hmmm,

Might have to do a little more investigating here. This swith is "either/or".

Perhaps I need a jumper across the solenoids to power 'em both up? Guess I'd better do the old "blow test" first. :>(

Allan



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Tom R Ne

02-28-2007 05:16:12




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to Allan In NE, 02-28-2007 05:01:17  
Allan:

All of these selector valves I have ever used the flow is diverted to the port where the Solenoid is energized. I have used ones from the IHC dealer and from the Surplus Center. Like you say it will be easy enough to check it out.

Here is a link to the Surplus Center if you open the "More Spec" tag you can get a PFD file with more detail.

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Allan In NE

02-28-2007 05:34:14




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 Re: Allan in NE - Hydraulic splitters in reply to Tom R Ne, 02-28-2007 05:16:12  
Yes Sir,

I just went out and checked out the valve. Darned thing is completely deadheaded without power, so guess that is how she works.

Thanks!

Allan



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