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Farmall H vs Ford 600

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IHJohnIH

02-27-2007 08:55:44




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Hook a chain, draw bar to drawbar Between an Farmall H and a Ford 600. Who wins?




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IaGary

02-27-2007 15:24:12




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
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Or you might end up like this.



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730virgil

02-27-2007 14:15:31




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
story is told several years at davis il a couple guys got to talking about what pull more one guy had a 4 wheel drive ford pickup the other a oliver 1650. they chained them together and and the fun started. as i remenber they were about even until trans went out of truck. ollie then drug him all over town. they also had to pay to fix the streets they tore up.



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RustyFarmall

02-27-2007 11:23:25




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
Assuming that the chain is the standard length 14' log chain, the little Ford could lift the 3 point all it wanted to and the H would still just walk away with it.



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LA in Wi.

02-27-2007 21:13:23




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-27-2007 11:23:25  
Back in about 1957 my brother and I wanted to see what would win in a pull....a JD G or our Super M. When dad wasn't home we drove the tractors out on the gravel road, figuring if we tried this on our farm yard dad would see the holes. Tied them to a 15 ft chain, and started the contest. We immediately dug 4 holes in the gravel road, with no forward movement of either tractor. Put the tractors away and filled those holes before dad came home.

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Mr. Bob

02-27-2007 21:19:16




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to LA in Wi., 02-27-2007 21:13:23  
When we were both teenagers, my neighbor got his dad's Oliver 88, and I got my dad's AC WD (with engine beefed up from 34 to about 49 hp) and hooked them together with heavy log chain. The two tractors weighed about the same the way they were equipped. Neither one moved the other; sust dug holes.



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old

02-27-2007 09:32:41




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
Reminds me of a story about a 15-30 farmall and a 9N my dad tells. The 9N won the pull. Why you ask well because of the 3 point. They hooked the 2 up but on the 9N the draw bar goes on the 3 point so when they stated to pull they lifted the 3 point and that lifted enough on the 15-30 that it lost traction. Same could be done to and H with the 600 so either way doing it that way isn't fair to either one. Theres just to many ifs and if is a very big thing in many ways

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dddd

02-27-2007 11:16:26




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to old, 02-27-2007 09:32:41  
NOW THAT is a really great way to roll over backwards! WOW, i can't imagine to say how dangerous that was.



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mj

03-01-2007 00:01:03




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to dddd, 02-27-2007 11:16:26  
Just remember when that front end comes up and you want it back down you don"t generally have time to close the throttle and that won"t save you most of the time anyway. Use the clutch to bring her back down; kinda like riding a dirtbike ..... Roger?



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old

02-27-2007 11:57:09




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to dddd, 02-27-2007 11:16:26  
Yep but that was also way back around 1940 or so and the 3 point was a real new thing back then and people didn't think about stuff like roll overs etc. Shoot they where lucky to even know how to use that new fangled 3 point way back then.



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Billy NY

02-27-2007 13:20:10




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to old, 02-27-2007 11:57:09  
The rollover thing, snapped chain or cable, chain links fly like bullets sometimes, sounds like a scary proposition, but prowess is kind of an ego trip when it comes to power and performance of man and machinery. My 850 ford would pop out of gear if I tried that. Now I thought the old Fordsons were notorious for flippin bakwards when plowing, if you hooked onto something, hence Fergusons idea finally coming to fruition and the handshake deal, and the rest of the deal with the 3 pt and draft control that helped eliminate that.

I always wanted to try that with 2 crawlers, but snapping a chain or cable would not be good, unless you could get your hands on some of the big stuff used on ships etc. They used some heavy chain back when they were clearing land in australia, 2 dozers dragging it together.

Then again, I never understood that my tractor will out pull yers, but the first time I ever went to a pull, really got a big kick out of it, the stock ones especially.

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b. jones

02-27-2007 09:21:50




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
I don't fully understand the nature of the question but I agree with Ken. A stock H and a stock 600 are fairly close in HP. The H is a heavier tractor and on a straight pull would have more traction. For most jobs I would take the Ford because of its 3 pt hitch and wide front end. Most H's didn't have the wide front. I have pulled a lot of people out with a 2N( smaller than the 600) by using the 3 pt with the drawbar. You sure need to know what your doing though.

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georgeky

02-27-2007 09:20:44




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
I dont know about that one it will probably be a close battle. I have a buddy that inherited his fathers 8n and he loves it. He use to come around bragging about that old 8n and would challenge my old M to a pull but always backed down. This went on for two years. Finally one day another buddy and myself were cutting wood on the farm across the road from his house, being sick of hearing about that 8n we devised a plan. In a creek bottom there was a small drainage ditch so I rutted it out a little with the M and placed it strategically as if were stuck, we then walked a half mile to his house to see if he would come pull that old M out. He agreed to try. We hooked a chain drawbar to drawbar and he tried to pull me as I held the brake he whipped around on the end of chain like a fish after a minute I eased the M into 2nd gear run up to a quarter throttle and eased out on the clutch. With great ease the M took the 8n backwards into the mud hole I had created. Needless to say he was quite upset about our trickery calling me every thing in the book. We are still friends but I have not heard a word about that 8n in years.

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ken in texas

02-27-2007 09:08:00




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to IHJohnIH, 02-27-2007 08:55:44  
that's easy, tie the chain around the ford drawbar and raise the lift. puts weight on ford rear tires ,takes it off of the H rear end and tires slip.Am I right???



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georgeky

02-27-2007 09:31:30




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to ken in texas, 02-27-2007 09:08:00  
I expect the H would turn that 600 over backwards trying that.



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Jeff Wennner

02-27-2007 09:36:24




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to georgeky, 02-27-2007 09:31:30  
I remember hearing of two guys that bolted the drawbar of an 8N to a M drawbar. The fella on the 8N put a little up pressure on the M and proceeded to pull him around like a toy.



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georgeky

02-27-2007 09:52:28




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to Jeff Wennner, 02-27-2007 09:36:24  
I dont know about that story. I dont think a 8n can do anything with a M no matter how it is hooked. It would not even lift much weight of the M My buddy tried raising drawbar on his 8n and it made no difference at all to the M.



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Glenn F.

02-27-2007 09:17:19




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 Re: Farmall H vs Ford 600 in reply to ken in texas, 02-27-2007 09:08:00  
Since safety is the motto, why not hook the chain to the seat base of the H, and all is equal again...?

Glenn



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