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Tire Bead Breaker Tool

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in-too-deep

02-26-2007 19:23:51




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I've always wanted one of those bead breaking devices. Saw them in Gempler's catalog one time and finally went and looked. Any one ever used one?




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bill mar

02-27-2007 15:03:47




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
i bought one from gemplers,the hardest part is getting the claw/fingers in to the bead.over all i rate it just ok. bill m.



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T_Bone

02-27-2007 09:55:19




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
Hi ITD,

I use a wood splitting maul that works really easy. I spray the bead with dish soap/water then set the maul on the rubber/steel joint then hit the maul with a single jack hammer one time, move 4" and repeat. This will pop the bead in 3 or 4 moves. Don"t have to swing hard just a firm blow. Once the outside bead pops the inside bead pops faster.

I have a backhoe with the solid wheels and this is the easiest way I"ve found as I don"t have to remove the wheel. I"m all crippled up and can repair a rear tire in a hour.

T_Bone

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in-too-deep

02-27-2007 12:09:46




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to T_Bone, 02-27-2007 09:55:19  
Thanks T_Bone. I've got plenty of those splitters layin' around. Maybe I'll try that one too.



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in-too-deep

02-27-2007 08:25:46




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
Thanks for all the replies guys. Next time I need something in a pinch I'll use glennster's handyman tip, or buy a slide hammer, but if I know I'm gonna be changing a set of tires, or several, I might just splurge and get one of those bead breakers. I guess we'll have to see how much money I have to play with when the time comes : )



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Pete76NY

02-27-2007 07:33:32




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
The one's I have used work OK, alot of labor, and if it's a real tough bead, they usually won't work. Best way I have found is if you have or know someone who has a Fast Hitch Farmall, I use our Super C, put a piece of 4x4 on the tire next to the bead, and let that down pressure do it's job! A couple of real toughies have actually lifted the tractor up of the ground, but a few seconds supporting that weight and it'll break!

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glennster

02-27-2007 07:24:59




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
howdy in to deep!!! missed ya at the auction, i use a handyman jack and a log chain to break down the bead. lay the chain on the ground, set the tire over the chain,loop around one side of the tire and rim, set the jack at the edge of the rim on the tire, snug up the chain, jack er up, once the bead starts to drop a little, i spray tire lube, rue glyde, ect in the crack, and give er a few more pumps on the jack. it pushes the bead right down, then flip tire over, do the other side...good to go!!!!

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krm

02-27-2007 07:14:38




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I have one from Sloan's and it works well.



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massey333

02-27-2007 05:33:28




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I guess I will have to disagree with the others and say they aren't perfect,but when you have tractors on 60" spacings,you don't or can't use a Slide hammer or any hammer on the inside bead.A air breaker or one of these is about the only way,when we had Ag.tire people they ALWAYS carried one of these on their trucks to use for confined places. A couple of neighbors and I each own one because of NO one around us does Ag. tire work anymore.They will sell but not service.Mine came from JD.

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massey333

02-27-2007 05:33:04




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I guess I will have to disagree with the others and say they aren't perfect,but when you have tractors on 60" spacings,you don't or can't use a Slide hammer or any hammer on the inside bead.A air breaker or one of these is about the only way,when we had Ag.tire people they ALWAYS carried one of these on their trucks to use for confined places. A couple of neighbors and I each own one because of NO one around us does Ag. tire work anymore.They will sell but not service.Mine came from JD.

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Big M

02-27-2007 05:27:57




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I have a "bead cheat-a" and like it. You can remove the tire while still on the tractor. Never seen a slide hammer you can use yet on the inside bead when still on the tractor. Break the outside first, then the inside and leave the tool on the rim, especially on those V drop centers on narrow tires. Works on 4 wheeler rims too where there is a holding rib inside the bead. Try those with a drop hammer and keep your pulse rate down.

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evielboweviel

02-27-2007 07:22:40




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to Big M, 02-27-2007 05:27:57  
I have the bead chata from SLOAN's also. sure makes it nice
Ron



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Merle Hoppenworth

02-27-2007 05:18:01




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
The Gempler tool that I bought is the one that uses a 1 1/4 ratchet on it to force the bead off. Cost about $180 and is very successful, most loaned out tool I have. Gone right now.



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herc983

02-26-2007 20:21:47




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
Take a piece of drill rod 4 foot or so long, weld a backhoe tooth to it, slide a piece of pipe over the drill rod - hammer away.



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iowa_tire_guy

02-26-2007 19:57:01




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I bought one and wasted my money. I do use it to hold a bead over to the center of the tire but to break the bead it really has to be pretty weak.



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old

02-26-2007 19:45:16




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
That thing is just a toy so to speak. Guess you should have asked more questions when you where down here I could have shown you a few differant types of them. My self I use a tire hammer, with practice you can get good with one and it will cost you maybe $20-50 for a good one and will last your grand sons lift to boot if you take care of it. Now if you don't like the hammer idea theres also a slide hammer one that has a long rod and a slide that brakes them down well and again less then $50 new. I also have an air powered one here but it takes a lot of work to pick it up and set it one the rim

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in-too-deep

02-26-2007 20:09:25




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to old, 02-26-2007 19:45:16  
Dang it all. I really should've spoken up more when I was down there! I might just look into one of those slide hammers. $150 seems like a lot for that bead breaker, and if Iowa Tire Guy doesn't like it, I'm not gonna spend my money on it : ) Oh and Old, I sent you an email about that Gravely, just wonderin if you got it. Thanks

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old

02-26-2007 20:48:56




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 20:09:25  
Yep thats a slide hammer type. Last one I looked at could be had for around $50 or so. Theres a place down 25 mile south of me that had them for that $50 price last time I was in there. Its sort of a TCS, store type place. Check with some of your local tire stores, most will have outlets for tire hammers and slide hammers. The nice thing about the slide hammer is you can pop a tire loose right one the tractor or truck. Yep years ago I was also a tire man and did my share of tractor, truck and car tires. The split rims where the most fun and I still do them off and on out here at my place. Now see you should have hung around about a week you might have been able to ask all the question that way and maybe even learned a thing or 2 LOL. I haven't gotten an e-mail from you yet by the way

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in-too-deep

02-27-2007 08:29:52




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to old, 02-26-2007 20:48:56  
Oh I'm sure I would've learned a thing or two! Or three! Now I remember, I had an email all typed up and then it wouldn't send. Forgot about the not-sending part. I'll give it another try.



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old

02-27-2007 08:35:44




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-27-2007 08:29:52  
Still haven't got an e-mail. Ya if you had been here say a week you would have found out I liked to work some place 5 or so years then move on. I got bored working for one place to long and wanted to learn another new thing so I would move on, and on. I've work so many place in my life I lost count of all of them but hey I learned a lot of things that way. Still wish I had a tig welder it was fun useing and at one time I could weld up a beer can and the fill it back up and it didn't leak but thats been 10-15 years ago

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in-too-deep

02-27-2007 08:55:56




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to old, 02-27-2007 08:35:44  
That's kinda like me. I made a list of all the places I've worked the other day, and it turns out, I've got a lot of work experience for my age! I wouldn't mind learning how to weld more either (I know basic stick and mig and oxy-acet.), that beer can trick sounds neat! You should have an email by now. By this time I could've just asked you here!



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Kurt F. Cordes

02-26-2007 19:32:30




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I sray Krol Oil on both sides of the tire, where it meets the rim. The I use either a slide hammer type or and old fashened beed bracking hammer. On those real old tire that might have had calciam in them, the Krol Oil is the ticket.



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Kieth-OR

02-26-2007 22:10:38




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 Hey Curt!! in reply to Kurt F. Cordes, 02-26-2007 19:32:30  
Andy take off yet? You get that Fordson going?
I am still looking for a WFE for the boy's SC

Keith & Shawn



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in-too-deep

02-26-2007 19:39:08




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to Kurt F. Cordes, 02-26-2007 19:32:30  
Well, I'm gonna side with you on the Kroil. That's good stuff and has a great smell to it too.



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msb

02-26-2007 19:30:35




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
I have had one of the older style bead breakers for about 15- 20 years. Its paid for itself many times over by allowing me to change even large rear tractor tires. No more beating and pounding on an old spoon.



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Neo Politan

02-26-2007 19:27:03




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to in-too-deep, 02-26-2007 19:23:51  
Got me a Big ole slide hammer type at a yard sale a while back and the issue of stuck beads is no longer an issue.



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Ken Macfarlane

02-27-2007 04:52:09




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 Re: Tire Bead Breaker Tool in reply to Neo Politan, 02-26-2007 19:27:03  
Interesting, I didn't know there were proper tools for it outside of the tire shop, I've only ever used sledgehammers, blocks of wood, hydraulic jacks, loader bucket etc.



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