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montanagriz

02-22-2007 05:33:27

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this has happened 2 times now... i have a 2002 chevy pickup and the check engine oil comes on. I shut it off and let it sit for 10 minutes or so and pull the dipstick and there"s not a drop of oil on it. Let it set for half hour or so and checks full of oil. Whats keeping the oil in the top of the motor?? I change oil every 2000 miles and truck only has 30,000 miles on it. Really considering going to a ford!!!

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Buckeye

02-23-2007 04:23:41

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

I ruined an engine on a 1989 Ford F-250 by loosing the oil pressure. Turns out that when I had the leaking valve covers fixed by my Ford dealer, they used to much silicone and this caused the drain holes to be stopped up and didn't allow the oil to drain back into the pan quick enough. When my problem occurred, I was always using high rpm's(pumping a lot of oil)pulling a trailer in mud in 4-wheel low.

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Tpost

02-22-2007 13:02:59

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

I saw this on a 86 Mazda my dad traded for. Great deal he told me. It was used as a "short distance" delivery truck and had low miles too. Worst looking engine I ever saw, gobbs of sludge, got it unplugged and drove it a couple years. We ended up overhauling it @ 86,000. Dont know if the oil was making the difference but previous owner was using Quaker State. Did not care for that brand anyway and I REFUSE to use it now.

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Howard H.

02-22-2007 12:30:35

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

There's not a chance some little kid dropped a paper towel in the fill hole? Or a mouse got in the engine and made a nest?

A calf knocked the fill cap off an engine we had one time (weren't using it over the winter) and a rat got in there and made a big nest on top of the oil pump in the oil pan.

Took us 2 days to finally figure out what was wrong and what happened...

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Tim Shultz

02-22-2007 11:39:48

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

you bought a chevy.. :0) lol.. Tim

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jpl

02-22-2007 10:54:37

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

my niece had same trouble, burnt her engine up, I ask her hubby what kind oil he was using, he said(cant say brand) but it was 30wt nondetergent, it was slugged up all way through the motor. if your using good detergent then clean the return gallys out. your oil is staying in the valve covers.

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Don L C

02-22-2007 09:10:53

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

Remove the valve covers after the oil has drained down..... .blow the return lines out with high pressure air (air compressor) ....wrap a shop rag around the end of the little blow gun..... there is going to be some blow back.....you should be able to hear when it clears..... ....Don

PS. let us know how it goes.....

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VADAVE

02-22-2007 08:37:26

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

So as it done this from the start?
If so then why did you wait till now to think about it? That's a warranty thing which I think your past.
If it started recently then I woould try a good motor flush with the engine warmed up good. If that doesn't clear it start clearing the return ports.

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Allan In NE

02-22-2007 07:19:17

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

Wow!

I've only seen that problem once and it wasn't on a Chevy.

It really does sound like the drainback holes are plugged up.

Allan

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Bob

02-22-2007 07:22:18

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to Allan In NE, 02-22-2007 07:19:17

Could he be running something like 15-40 oil in the cold weather?

I have a neighbor who runs 15-40 diesel oil in EVERYTHING, winter and summer. I have NO idea why!

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Allan In NE

02-22-2007 07:54:34

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to Bob, 02-22-2007 07:22:18

I dunno,

With just 30K miles, he sure isn't drivin' it much. :>)

The only Chevy I ever saw plugged up was back in '68 when they changed over to the 195 degree thermostats and the oils at that time hadn't caught up to the newer hotter running engines.

A new Impala came in off the Interstate, had been running non-stop from California, had no oil pressure and the oil in that thing was like tar.

Remember the mechanic having to dig that stuff out with a putty knife.

Allan

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souNdguy

02-22-2007 06:48:01

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

When ya change the oil.. what's it look like? sludgy? or 'normal'. At 2k mile changes.. i would think it would look 'great'..

Soundguy

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Revredneck

02-22-2007 06:38:44

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to montanagriz, 02-22-2007 05:33:27

I believe I would pull the valve covers and check for blockage in the oil return passages. I used to work for Cadillac in mid-eighties, and those engines had tiny passages which would clog up and keep all the oil on top of the heads. They finally did a redesign to fix the problem. The problem was common on low mileage cars, even though they had been well maintained. We finally figured out that the real issue was that the owners were mostly driving their cars for short distances, not fully warming up to burn the moisture and junk out of the oil. Since your truck has so few miles on it, I would guess that you may have the same problem. Get the sludge cleaned out of the heads and flush the crankcase out really good, then be sure to warm it up as often as you can, and drive her out the road pretty hard every so often to keep the juices flowing good. Hope this helps.
Good luck and God Bless, Tommy

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Easy1

02-22-2007 08:03:17

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to Revredneck, 02-22-2007 06:38:44

Rev, Did you work at Clark Street? I am at Livonia engine now. (Irv LaLonde)

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Revredneck

02-23-2007 16:37:35

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to Easy1, 02-22-2007 08:03:17

I worked at Courtesy Cadillac in Louiville, KY for about 3 years. Those Caddy customers really demanded answers when their babies were having problems. I remember doing a lot of reading and research to provide good answers. We sure did replace a lot of camshafts in those days!
Good Luck and God Bless, Tommy

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D13

02-22-2007 13:28:27

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Re: whats the deal??? in reply to Easy1, 02-22-2007 08:03:17

I worked at Clark Street 85-87. I was in QC, mostly on 2nd. Still love those D cars. There's still a few of us left over to the Tech Center.

I had a 260 Olds V-8 that they ran without PCV breathers for 50k. Dripped oil from the valve covers. Pulled them, took a coffee can of sand out of the motor, spent 7 hours and 3 gallons kerosene getting the drains open. Ran 4 quater oil and 1 diesel and changed daily until stopped getting sand out. Motor ran for anther 100K with noting but a timing chain.

Run a can of motor flush, change your oil, repeat. Use good detergent oils, preferably Havoline or Valvoline (Quaker and Penzoil tend to heve more eastern crude which is higher in wax).

If it doen't clear up then the valve covers will have to come off. Judging by your post you might want to just do it and get it over.

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