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JeffK-MN

02-10-2007 16:32:03




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I have 2 older Oliver tractors one is a 1950 77 row crop gas and the other is a 1800B diesel.

With all the changes to the diesel fuel I ask someone about using it in a older tractor and they said I had to put in some additives or it could hurt the motor. Has anyone heard about this? If so what additive do you us?
And also do I have to add anything to the gas because the old gas was leaded and now it is all unleaded?

It may sound dumb but it got me to think and want to ask people that have been around them a lot longer then I have

Thanks for any Help Jeff

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David Snipes

02-13-2007 10:28:02




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
Two cycle oil mixed in your gasoline at 100 to 1 ratio will help lubricate the older valves. I read that in a British classic motorcycle magazine. I have examined some lead substitues in the past and they look, smell and feel very much like two cycle oil.



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paul

02-11-2007 00:35:28




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
Assuming the MN stands for Minnesota, we have 2% biodiesel up here in all diesel fuel, so that takes care of the lubricity - no additive needed to replace the sulfur.

Gasoline, if your valve seats were soft whenever the last valve job was done, hard seats were put in & all will be well without lead - been 30 years or more since we had lead. If you still have soft seats, youe money is better saved for the valve job, than to spend it on additives that are marginal at replacing the lead.

--->Paul

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JeffK-MN

02-11-2007 06:28:54




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to paul, 02-11-2007 00:35:28  
Thanks for all the info.

I only have the two tractors but want to try and keep them as nice as I can and the last time the gas truck was out my I had some truble with the diesel geling up and so I was asking around and it just got me to thinking

Thanks to all and it just goes to show how this is a great site Jeff



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buickanddeere

02-10-2007 20:34:58




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
The ultra low sulphur diesel is ok in anything.It has a lubricant additive. The low sulphur diesel, particularly the 1st products on the market a couple of years ago. It could be tough on injector pumps.



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TomTX

02-10-2007 19:36:32




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
American Power Service diesel fuel additive. Available at TSC, Walley World, and most anywere. Prevents gelling, adds lubricity, removes moisture, lubs injectors, lubs pumps, keeps fuel cleaner and dryer, boosts cetane 3 to 6 points. Use 1 quart per 50 gallons of diesel. There are several formulas, i use the one the white bottle. Post back if you need more info.
I know others will bash me, but I am 65 yrs old have 2 diesel tractors, and have never pulled a pump, never clogged a filter, never had diesel gel, never clogged an injector. I will spend my $5 per 50 gallons year round. I also put Stabil in every drop of gasoline in the container/tank/barrel when purchased year round. Never rebuilt a carb since the 70s, never had gas go bad. Tom

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ric1

02-10-2007 17:40:42




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
i thought that was just road fuel but is off road gonna change also



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RustyFarmall

02-11-2007 05:46:51




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to ric1, 02-10-2007 17:40:42  
On-road, off-road, there is no difference except for the dye that is added to the off road fuel. On road fuel is taxed for highway use, off road fuel is not. The dye is added to prevent the use of off road fuel in vehicles which are used on the road.



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dds-inc

02-10-2007 16:54:38




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
Figment of your imagination and others, as well.



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nhboyd

02-10-2007 16:54:31




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
The new fuel has less lubricating properties. So you can add an additive to make up for it. In cold weather the new fuel may gel at a higher temp. so add an anti-gel additive. Your gas tractor should be ok with out anything



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Schells

02-10-2007 16:46:57




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 Re: Fuel Question in reply to JeffK-MN, 02-10-2007 16:32:03  
Unless you're using these tractors hard for several thousand hours a year, I don't think you need to be concerned about using modern fuel in them, either gas or diesel.



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