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O/T Chevy Cobalt

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Rich Va

02-08-2007 10:08:17




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Anybody out there own one,if so your opinion needed. I've been looking around at some and the car appears to be well put together with lots of features and the gas mileage ain't bad either. I have a long drive to work and if it wasn't for that I would just stick with driving my truck.It never hurts to have a spare vehicle. I know some will say a few of the imports are better, and I'm sure much of this car is imported,but Chevorlet is still an American brand.

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Rich Va

02-09-2007 04:03:24




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
Thanks for the reply folks. I drive 180 miles a day round trip. So you see, it would make a difference in a years time driving something getting 32-35 mpg versus 18-20 mpg. There are still a few 06 program Cobalts out there with 25,000 miles I can get for about $10,500-12,000 range. I also need to call my ins.agent. If I sleep good and not worry about the money then that tells me it's ok to buy. Will give it a few more days.

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Steven@AZ

02-08-2007 15:28:55




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
I don't know if this will help you at all, but here is my free advice:

I've learned in the last few years that it is much more cost effective to buy a vehicle that is at least 3 to 5 years old with 50k miles on it. Why? Let someone else drive the big depreciation out of it! Instead of buying a new van for $25k, we took a few months to search and found a '97 Caravan with 56k on it for less than a third the price of the new one. It still has 90% of the features of a new one at much less cost (buying, insuring, and licensing are all cheaper!).

For me, the mid-90's Civic is an awesome car for economy. Get the low-end model (coupe or hatchback for light weight) with the lower-power engine and manual tranny and make the mid to upper 30's for gas mileage.

I have a 94 del Sol S myself with the 104 horsepower 1.5 and a 5-speed and average 42 miles per gallon! That includes in town, freeway, and interstate driving. In the mountains on interstate it lowers to the mid-30's. I really like my del Sol because it makes econo-box mileage and has some style instead of being ugly like a Metro, etc.

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Midwest redneck

02-08-2007 14:14:55




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
I just bought a brand new one 3 weeks ago. It has 1000 miles on it right now. I like the car, I still cant find the oil filter, I will take it in for the 1st oil change so that I can see where the filter is. The 100K mile warranty (power train only) all else is 36K miles made the deal for me. I paid $14,700 for the car after my sisters GM employee discount. I got the 2.2L engine with Power locks, windows, keyless entry. AC too. The only thing it doesnt have is cruise and power seats. Mpg is 27 but I do 80MPH on the freeway. I had a 2002 saturn SL1 and it was becoming unreliable and junk, So my local Chevy dealer gave me $3100 for the trade of the Saturn and I said (you betcha) I picked up the car on 1-23-07. Time will tell how good it is or isnt. but the 100K power train warranty is nice, GM stands behind the car. For me it was the Ford Focus or the Cobalt. (GM discount and the 100K warranty sealed it) Nuff said

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Aaron Ford

02-08-2007 18:34:53




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Midwest redneck, 02-08-2007 14:14:55  
The oil filter is on top of the engine on the front where it mates to the tranny. Look for a 2-3" black cover with a 1" or so hex. The filter is a cartridge type that installs from the top.

HTH

Aaron



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Midwest redneck

02-09-2007 02:20:24




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Aaron Ford, 02-08-2007 18:34:53  
Thanks, I will look later today.



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JD595

02-08-2007 10:37:22




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
Are Cobalt costs us $603 more to insure for the year than our new Silverado. I wish i would have checked into insurance first. Just something to think about....



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Brian in NY

02-08-2007 10:34:57




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
Well I don't own one but have a few opinions on it anyway.
They do seem to be much better constructed than the Cavaliers they replaced.
That said, their long term reliability is not certain mostly due to the short history.
Within the past 10 years or so, GM's cars are much more trouble free than they had a history of being.

As far as a small American car goes, they are probably as good as it gets.....Japan and Korea make better ones but if you feel you must buy American it's a good choice.

Good luck with whatever you decide!

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RayP(MI)

02-08-2007 17:49:46




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Brian in NY, 02-08-2007 10:34:57  
I hope you"re not endorsing KIA! Wife"s girlfrined has one, and nothing but trouble.



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Brian in NY

02-09-2007 05:49:06




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to RayP(MI), 02-08-2007 17:49:46  
You might not know it, but both Hyundai and Kia have made absolutely huge leaps in build quality and reliability over the past 2-3 years. I would agree that a Kia made 2004 or prior is generally a lemon.



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Ken in Arkansas

02-08-2007 10:25:24




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
A co-worker bought a Cobalt (2 door, manual transmission) last year and is very pleased with the mileage and performance of the car.



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e

02-08-2007 10:22:48




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Rich Va, 02-08-2007 10:08:17  
Before you consider brands, do the math and figure out how much you will be ahead by buying a second vehicle. Factor in depreciation, interest, insurance, maintainance, etc. Unless you are driving hundreds of miles/day, you'll be going more in the hole than you are now.

We have a Civic right now, but our next car will likely be a Durango or Tahoe. Why? Have you ever seen a compact car in an accident? When you are driving one of those cars down the interstate amongst a bunch of semi's boy do you feel small. My wife's life is worth more than saving a few hundred dollars in gas a year.

A few years ago a Silverado got in a wreck with a Kia going ~55 mph near the parents. I was one of the first on the scene. The guy in the Silverado got out of the truck and walked to the nearest house to use the phone. The lady in the Kia was cut out with the jaws of life and med-flighted to the hospital. Seeing that made up my mind that I will pay extra for gas knowing I will have a better chance of walking away from an accident in one piece. There are lots of vehicles on the road bigger than that cute little cobalt.

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Mike in Ind.

02-08-2007 14:33:58




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to e, 02-08-2007 10:22:48  
Amen to that, the added saftey of a truck plus the extra room and comfort for a big guy like me (6ft 6in tall) is well worth the extra fuel costs and the insurance isn't bad either about $800 every year for full coverage. I'll stick with my Silverado. Mike.



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Midwest redneck

02-08-2007 14:25:31




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to e, 02-08-2007 10:22:48  
I understand what you are saying but....I used to own a 97 Escort (Great Car) racked up 131K miles on it and it still ran good when I sold it at 131K, Super reliable, good gas milage, comfy, I drove it to work every day for 5 years. Before that my wife drove it for 3 years. To me it comes down to 1. Price (I aint rich enough to afford a new $30K Buick or truck). 2. Gas Milage....32MPG is nice. (low operating costs) 3. Insurance on small cars after a few years is minimal. I paid $700 per year on my Saturn. and about the same on my Escort.

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Insuranceman

02-08-2007 13:09:37




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to e, 02-08-2007 10:22:48  
So should peoples liability insurance sciosts be higher with bigger vehicles that can cause more damage ?



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e

02-08-2007 13:44:27




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Insuranceman, 02-08-2007 13:09:37  
I think the real question is: are big vehicles more likely to cause more damage OR are small vehicles more likely to be damaged? The government looks at it as small cars are less safe, not that big cars cause more damage. Cars classified as "compact" cannot get the same safety rating as larger ones. Insurance on a compact car is higher partially because they are not as safe. We pay more for the civic and so does JD595 because they are compacts.

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davpal

02-08-2007 16:20:32




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to e, 02-08-2007 13:44:27  
How often do you see a car wreck that is serious that both vehicles aren't junk when they haul them away. If you hit an escort with a silverado they are both going to be junk afterwards. The people in the heavier vehicle may have a better chance of surviving the crash but the silverado will be in the junkyard along with the escort. Insurance companies are basically paying you for personal injury liability, replacing the vehicle is secondary. A lot of people that total out a car don't even claim it on insurance because those rippoff artists will just jack up the premium and get it back from you anyway. Just wish there were a few chinese and Indian insurance companies that would come in and undercut these A-holes so they would have to lower their prices instead of getting constant pay raises and building new buildings all over the place.

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Short Round

02-08-2007 13:41:46




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 Re: O/T Chevy Cobalt in reply to Insuranceman, 02-08-2007 13:09:37  
Insurance man, should the coverage of the person in the small car be higher cause they are more likely to be injured/killed in an accident? One would think a person would be safer in a large car or truck.



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