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37 chief

02-02-2007 13:28:47




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I like to check and service my own stuff, even my auto tranny's. I thought I would get a price for somone else to do this. I called three places two were at 100.00 one was at 50.00. All three changed filter, and pan gasket. I wonder why there is so much difference in price. The 50.00 service is just what I would do. Thanks, Stan




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Stumpalump

02-03-2007 05:43:45




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
Some Auto transmission pans have a small drain plug. Did you check? Just dump what you can and add some fresh.
Dextron 4 is available now and it is the best. Backwards compatable also.



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Dean Barker

02-02-2007 21:52:25




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
I like to drop the pan, install a new filter,refill with new fluid, and then break the cooler line coming back to the transmission. I have the wife start the engine and when the fluid stops coming out of the broken cooler line, I have her shut off the engine. I hook the cooler line back up and refill the transmission. This essentially changes all the fluid and I'm set to go another 35,000 to 50,000 miles.

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Aaron Ford

02-02-2007 19:49:53




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
I'm gonna throw my rock into this soup...

I , too, priced the flush/exchange and found the price to be too high. I also found that the used fluid is filtered and reinstalled. Now, I ain't AJ Foyt, but that did not sound like a good idea. I insead bought a case of fluid and a filter. I put an adapter on my cordless drill and a 10mm socket and went to work. I dropped the pan and let her drain. I then bolted the pan back up and refilled the fluid to normal operating level. Then I ran the car till she was good and heated up, and dropped the fluid again. This time I changed the filter. I filled it up a second time.

The tranny took 5.5 quarts per swap. I have no idea how much a GM TC holds, but I suspect I was about 75% efficient. This was confirmed by the difficulty of checking the oil due to it's transparency. It looked exactly like what was in the last bottle.

This way cost me about $36 for the oil, and 15 for the filter. A total of around $50.

I set the clutch on the drill very light. All screws were started by hand. The final torque was also set by hand. HTH

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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Steven@AZ

02-02-2007 17:14:30




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
I used to have the tranny service done by a supposedly reputable shop... but after having two vehicles that were in good condition develop transmission issues less than 5,000 miles after their flush I will never go back.

I drop the pan myself, change the filter, clean the magnet and button it back up. Fill with fluid, pump out 2 to 3 quarts and re-fill. Continue until I've run about a quart more than capacity through it. I've never lost a tranny doing it that way.

I prefer manual due to it's better longevity and better able to control the vehicle, but my wife won't drive one and can't get a mini-van these days with a stick. :o(

That's my $0.02 worth and there is no refund!

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Hobo,NC

02-02-2007 17:02:38




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
Just read Brokenwranch reply and good advice would add that today’s fluid aint no were as good as the fluid in the good old days has to do wif sperm whale oil and we bout killed’em all so add in lock up toque converters and higher heat/stress and the fluid additive package kin be used up and the fluid look new. I use to look at it this way in the good old days, if you serviced yer trans 4 times in its life span you would spend the cost of a rebuild back then, most trans needed rebuilt around 100K and cost $200.00. Today a trans kin run 2 to 3K so ‘bout all you kin do izz do the scheduled service and hope fer the best. Now that theirs no Whale oil additives they have yet to find a equal replacement and admit it.

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Hobo,NC

02-02-2007 16:41:50




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
Less their izz a concern wif the transmission I never change a filter till 100K. So heres how I service a trans, I hook up the fluid exchanger to a cooler line and add the proper amount of fluid to exchange . So iffin the spec izz 15 qt to fill a empty unit I dump 16 to 17 qt in the machine. I then start the engine and let it warm up and then turn the exchanger on till it removes 15 Qt in exchange fer 15 to 17 new Qts. Now got that done so move on to the filter, If I am going to do the filter I have a special fluid remover that I stick down the oil fill tube and suck out all the fluild in the pan. I then drop the pan and change the filter usually their will be a qt of fluid in the pan I throw it away. I then install the pan and reverse the valve on my tank and refill wif the spose to be new fluid I just sucked out. The reason I do the filter last izz I let all the contaminates in the old fluid be drawn thur the old filter. I am the only one I have seen do a service this way most will flush and try and save the fluid when they drop the pan to change the filter. The quick lubes add a new filter then flush witch don’t figger to me to run old fluid thru a new filter. You have to twist their arm now to git’em to do the filter deal cuzz they want volume and the filter takes to long. Flush’it wam bam thank ya mam. I also use only manufacture specified fluids altho it does not have to be a OEM brand fluid but does have to be a major oil co. brand that meets OEM spec. My cost on fluid dextrin 3 izz around $2.00, Mecron V over $4.00, Chrysler 3 and 4 over $4.00, do the math @ $50.00 fer a fluid and filter change they ain’t make’in money only keep’in minimum wage help busy. Only look’in to do meat and gravy jobs and leave the bones fer sumone else. The least I have seen a fluid exchange unit go fer new izz around $3500.00 and over 5K so how many of those jobs does one need to do to pay fer the equipment. I probley never will but to keep up wif the Jones I had to invest in one. Now git this the high volume shops may git the equipment free if they use only the snake oil products supplied by the name on the machine. They tell me I would need to buy at least $1000.00 a month to git in on the deal but I don’t want to be obligated to enny one so I went independent At that price I would have to push unneeded additives to my customers but if I had enuff customers that I could push that much to who would care if I lost one every now and again, I kin use what ever I want in my machine tho I do buy sum products to keep the spose to be lifetime warranty in effect. They did replace all the parts in my coolant flush machine FREE and its around 5 years old. So I will spend a little wif’em. Actual the $50.00 price izz a menu item used to git you in the bay and do a sell up on other services you may need, bate’in the hook I think izz what a country boy would call it, would you like fries wif that or upsize the order. Would like sumone to tell me a bad thang about flush'in the trans, tell me what would be better.

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Brokenwrench

02-02-2007 15:58:29




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
What type of vehicle is it? Most fords have a drain plug in the converter, if that`s the case you can get most of the fluid out by dropping the pan, changing the filter and draining the converter. Most of the rest don`t have a drain plug so you`ll only get about 1/2 the fluid out. Flushing isn`t really flushing anything it`s just exchanging the fluid. With the shops that flush be sure and ask if they`re changing the filter or not. The price will probably reflect that. Flushers tie into the cooler lines and exchange the fluid, so dropping the pan isn`t necissary. That`s how some of the quick lube places can advertise a $50.00 trans flush special. To me not changing the filter is kinda like taking a shower and puttin dirty underwear back on. I don`t have a fluid exchanger(flusher) here cause alot of shops I work for do. I don`t see a problem with doing it either way, if you`re gonna just drop the pan and filter, do it alittle more often. Like someone mentioned earlier I advise people to just periodically check their fluid. If it`s nice and red it`s still ok, if it`s real burnt changing it probably ain`t gonna do much good. ATF will start to break down and not really burn, it turns a kinda amber/brown color. That`s a good indication it`s time to change fluid.
I haven`t seen any problems happen from someone changing fluid on a good working trans as preventative maintainance. The guy that comes into my shop smokin mad cause the shop down the road did a fluid change and now his trans slips is usually not telling the whole truth. They end up admitting that, well it was slipping alittle, so I thought I`d get the fluid changed, but now it`s worse.
Unless it`s a vehicle that has an issue with sticking valves, changing fluid after the first signs of a problem is pretty much a waste of money. Anyway, get me talkin transmissions and I`m like the energizer bunny, just keep goin and goin. Good luck Brokenwrench

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37 chief

02-02-2007 15:00:12




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
I don't think the 100.00 job includes flushing. I here bad thing's about the flushing process. I don't think I would do that, but when they just drain the pan there is still about 1/2 of used oil left. That is like doing 1/2 of a engine oil change. I guess the good thing about that is you might catch a problem, before it becomes a large one. On my Aerostar van I would remove pan, clean and replce the oil. Then I would remove the cooling line to the rad. start the engine drain 1 qt, and add one qt. did this until oil was clean. Stan

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dds-inc

02-02-2007 14:54:44




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
KEEP IN MIND THAT JUST CHANGING THE OIL IN THE TRANNY DOES ***NOT*** COMPLETELY CHANGE IT. The 100 dollar service is MORE THAN LIKELY flushing out the whole tranny and a filter change



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Walt Davies

02-02-2007 14:18:07




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
I have always pulled the dipstick out and looked at the oil if it looks good and smell good then leave it along if it look black or dark and smells burnt then get it to a good shop for a full service if this doesn't help then replace it or rebuild it.
Tranny oil unlike engine oil will last along time as long as the tranny is in good shape. when the bands or disks get worn is when you need to work on them.
Walt

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85_Ranger4x4

02-02-2007 14:08:29




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
Actually you can get quite abit of fluid out just by draining on some vehicles. My Ford has a plug on the TC as well and you can get all but 1 or 2 quarts out, out of 15-16 (don’t remember off the top of my head) that isn’t too bad. I have heard of a couple guys that have had tranny problems after flushing, stuff got knocked loose and not actually out of the system. I drain my own and knocking on wood haven’t had a problem yet.

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marlowe

02-02-2007 13:59:57




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
i must be cheep because i have never had a tras flush on any auto trans and we run are cars well over 200'000 miles and have NEVER had a trans go bad . my trucks are all manual because that what trucks should have and i don't think you shoud kick a sleeping dog if it's not broke don't fix it



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Pig-pen

02-02-2007 13:36:37




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 Re: O/T Auto transmission service in reply to 37 chief, 02-02-2007 13:28:47  
The 100.00 dollar job would hook up your cooler lines to a machine and flush your tranny until the new fluid starts to come thru. The 50.00 dollar job just drops the pan and replaces the filter and gasket. The 100.00 dollar job is the best because it flushes ALL the fluid including the fluid in the converter. If it was me I would do the 100.00 job. I do mine every 35,000 miles. Hope this helps, Richard

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