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560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance

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Robert Searcy

02-01-2007 07:09:42




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Okay, I am aware the 282 656 Diesel uses Load Advance timing on the pump and Speed Advance on the 706 282 pump. How about the 560 pump??

Could a 282 560 engine be turned up to the 2800 rpm range of the 660 Farmall 282 engine and the 282 combine version that runs 2800 as well??

what did that 660/Combine version of the 282 Diesel pump use??

I am wanting to tweek it out some for pulling an was wondering what I could get away with.

I also plan to eventually get a 656/706 exhaust manifold and install the turbo kit they made for the 560 when I restore it later on but wanted to play with it some first!!!

Any other tips to get some more umph out of it.

thanks

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jdemaris

02-01-2007 07:56:27




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 Re: 560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance in reply to Robert Searcy, 02-01-2007 07:09:42  
I dont' know what type/make of pump you have. But - if you are just making a puller, all you really need is maximum fuel delivery and maxium fuel timing advance while under a full pull. At least with a Stanadyne/Roosamaster and a few other rotary pumps - you can adjust any existing load-advance and/or speed advance so you simply get fuel-fuel when you manually full-throttle it -and any timing advance you want - at any load or at any RPM.

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Robert Searcy

02-01-2007 12:01:29




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 Re: 560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance in reply to jdemaris, 02-01-2007 07:56:27  
I will take a look at that pump tonight when i get home and you can advise from there, its got red farmall paint on it, does that help!!!

ha



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Robert Searcy

02-01-2007 10:35:37




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 Re: 560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance in reply to jdemaris, 02-01-2007 07:56:27  
So by just adjusting the throttle linkage and stops and running it up to 2800 rpms would that do it??



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jdemaris

02-01-2007 11:58:02




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 Re: 560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance in reply to Robert Searcy, 02-01-2007 10:35:37  
For me to be more specific, you have to tell me exactly what injection pump you have. But - load and speed advance in just about any pump is a function of fuel -timing and it's usually hydraulically operated. A torque screw, if you have one, affects the opening of the fuel metering valve. In regard to the amount of maxium fuel being pumped - if you have a rotary pump - it is a result of the length of stroke of pump-plungers and position of the metering valve. At the moment, I don't have a clue as to what pump you have - I'm not even sure it's a rotary - but most likely it is. My diesel experience is much heavier with Deere,Allis, and GM than it is with IH.

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Robert Searcy

02-01-2007 10:35:28




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 Re: 560-656-706 Load Advance vs. Speed Advance in reply to jdemaris, 02-01-2007 07:56:27  
So by just adjusting the throttle linkage and stops and running it up to 2800 rpms would that do it??



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