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DL in MI

01-26-2007 20:01:30




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Need rear tires for my MF-165, just a hobby-food plot unit, have got prices on Firestones, which seem a little pricey for my use, and Harvest King/Power kings, and Max-Tracs. The stones run $130.00+ more than the others. Any input would be appreciated.




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Dean Barker

01-29-2007 13:19:18




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Go with the best Firestones you can get. The Firestones on our experimental tractors that we ran in Arizona would outlast any other brand 1 1/2 to 2 times. The Firestones seem to age well also.



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buickanddeere

01-28-2007 18:34:50




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Many tire problems are due to owners who cheaped out and purchased a 4 or 6 ply tire when an 8 or or 10 ply tire was required. Then to add insult to injury they run the tire either under or over inflated. The manufactures office costs, trucking, warehousing and dealer markup is all within a few dollars for any tire of a given size and application. If the tire costs $100.00 more then you are getting nearly $100.00 more quality & quantity. Checking the weights of various tires will at least indicate the quantity. And lets not forget when comparing tires not compair apples to oranges. The ecno line of Firestones won't rate against the best tires Titan has to offer. As for traction? Go to a "stock" tractor pull and see what's on the top three tractors in each class. Odds are it's Firestone All Traction F & R or Traction F and R.

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iowa_tire_guy

01-27-2007 15:03:27




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
I am a Firestone dealer because I feel they are the best farm tire for the money. Just put on a pair of 16.9-38 on an Oliver 1650 today that the owner wouldn't have anything else. He plans on using the tractor to spray with so it is a working tractor. Now as for your situation I would suggest the Powerkings. They are made by Kelly in the Goodyear plant and are decent tires even if they aren't Firestones. And you aren't using the tractor hard. The other good deal right now is the Kelly Springfields because since Titan bought Goodyear/Kelly they have decided to drop the Kelly line so they are discounting the Kelleys to get rid of them. Do the Power Kings.

As for the one brand is better than the other, if you name a brand I can find you as many who love it as I can find who hate it. Everyone has an opinion.

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Don-Wi

01-27-2007 11:12:40




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
I"ve gotta disagree with the others on the Armstrong/Titans. We"ve got a 1755 Oliver parked out back with a bad engine that"s got Armstrongs on it. They"ve been sitting in the sun for 3-4 years straight and the tires still look the same as they did 7 years ago. They do have some weather checking, but it"s not bad at all. I"ve seen much worse on newer Goodyears.

We Also put a pair of Titan"s on our 165 Massey about 4-5 years ago and they still look fine. We took off a pair of Firestone Feild & Roads off because about 6-7 years earlier my brothers ran over an old disk in the weeds that they didn"t see. The disk cut a slice in the tire, but it took a while for it to actually split all the way through. The Titan"s have a ton more traction than the F&R"s. No hop on the road either, unless the tractor"s been parked for a while and they get a flat spot.

While it"s true the Firestone"s may last longer, if it"s parked in a shed chances are the tires will last longer than you have the tractor.


Just wondering- Why do the current tires need to be replaced? As long as they still hold air and have a fair amount of traction, run "em, IMHO.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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RodInNS

01-27-2007 14:21:46




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to Don-Wi, 01-27-2007 11:12:40  
Give the Titan's time. Not too much more, but a little more. We've had various sets of them that arrived here on new tractors and a skid steer. I won't argue what you said about the pulling or driving performance of them other than they do vibrate some on the road, just not as bad as the Dyna Torque II's. The problem we've had is that the casings will never wear out their lugs. They don't carry their rated loads before the blow, and in 7-8 years of daily or regular use, the sidewall will come out of them. That's been the fate of every Armstrong/Titan tire we've ever had, and the casing didn't necessairly look bad when it blew. They go when least expected.
The Dyna Torque II's haven't been entirely trouble free, but it's been very little trouble, and they've got some serious age on them before they rot. Thing with most DT II's is that they wear out before they have a chance to blow.
Thus far, the best value we've had from any set of tires was a pair of Firestone Radial All Traction 23 Degree's. Pushing 2500 hours of use, many on the asphalt, most overloaded, and still around 50%. Dollar for dollar, the best tires we ever bought.
Give the Titan's a bit more time. Their day will come.

Rod

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Don-wi

01-27-2007 19:37:38




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to RodInNS, 01-27-2007 14:21:46  
Worst tires I ever saw were Goodyears. Our 285 came with them from the factory. My dad did alot of road driving with them cutting hay for neighbors.

I think he said they had maybe 1000-1500 hours on them when he replaced them because the treads were starting to peel from the casing. At the most they would have had 2000 hours. I think they were replaced in about 88 or 87, I don't ever remember the dyna torques being mounted, I'm 22. He had them replaced with PowerMark long bar/short bar bias ply tires. Still on the tractor right now, and it's got 6100 hours on it. They're about 50% still, but until 2 years ago were closer to 60%. Lately it's become more of a road tractor again after I got my 1600 Oliver running so that one runs the blower and the 1855 runs the chopper. The 285 hauls all the loads while chopping, and does almost all of the haying.

I'm more sold on the PowerMarks than any other tire right now. They are a little weather checked, but really not too bad for how much it sits outside.

One of the GoodYears did end up on a dual rim this summer though after I caught one on the manure spreader making a short turn. (Also do a bunch of road travel while hauling manure.) After the tire was mounted on the rim we didn't need the duals anymore so I haven't used them since.

The we bought 1755 behind the barn about 7 years ago, no idea how long the Armstrong's have been mounted.
Our 1855 came with Coop radials. They're pretty weather checked and worn down to at most 40%, but it still has a surprizing amount of pull. I've seen a nice pair of Firestone 23 degrees in the bone yard that had about 95% tread last year, but they'd probably still want a fortune for them.

My dad bought new tires for my 1600 when I restored it, I forget the brand name but it's something like Agri-Master... I forget.

The tire guy said they were the closest to the tread pattern of a Firestone tire. Kinda surprising this guy won't try to push us into buying a really expensive set of tires.... Maybe because he wants to serve us better, maybe because he wants to put a new set on in another couple years.... I dunno but he gave me a bad taste when I drove out there with the dual tire to get fixed this past summer...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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sammy the RED

01-27-2007 10:57:46




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Gotta agree with the others.

Go FireStone !



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Jim WJ

01-27-2007 09:32:49




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
DL Go with the Firestone great on the farm and also in the forest. Jim WJ



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Fluggie in IA

01-27-2007 06:26:10




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
I agree with all here! Spend the extra & you'll be glad a long long time. A pair of new Armstrongs I had on one of my tractor ride machines were really nice around the yard, but, on the open road, hopped like a rabbit and could not get them to quit even after recentering the hub to the wheel. I could see the out-of-round as I drove down the road.



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01-26-2007 21:41:24




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Go with the Firestones, you'll be sorry you didn't spend the extra $130 later on.



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Grabatire

01-26-2007 21:24:49




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Ditto on the Titans. I put a set on my 1939 JD after restoring it, and within a year the side walls were so checked and cracked it looked like they had sat outside in the blazing sun for forty years. Other than a few tractor shows and a pull or two it sits inside a closed building, but you would never know it by the tires.



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two mile

01-26-2007 21:11:35




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Firestone has my business. All that I have ever bought. I haven't purchased any for several years but remember that they had several options. A good, better, best senario. The good is probably better than most competitors and similar in price. I do have a set of off-brand duals that came with one tractor, Just like the others said, poor rubber, cracking on the case, and has a peculiar diameter. Quality remains long after price is forgotten.

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RodInNS

01-26-2007 20:23:07




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 Re: Tire makes in reply to DL in MI, 01-26-2007 20:01:30  
Dunno about the others because I've never heard of them, but I do know the 'stones. I've found that with tires, you generally get what you pay for. You pay more for Firestone. You get more with Firestone. You could also look towards Galaxy/Primex. I've faired reasonably well with them. BFG also seems to make a fairly good tire, and as always, Michelin is at the top of the heap. For Bibs, you will pay....
The thing I worry about with cheap tires is the rubber compounds. A lot of the casings break down long before the tire ever wears out on the cheapies, due to dry rot. You might be as far ahead to buy a good used set from somebody that ran firesones on the asphalt a lot. Still got a good casing with some wear....
Personally, I stay clear of Armstrong/Titan at all costs because their casings are garbage. If you can still find the last fo the Good Years on the go, you might find a good long lasting casing with an undesirable lug.....
Like I said, Firestone will give you about the best value, but not the cheapest price. Good luck.

Rod

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