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alarson

01-26-2007 11:44:50

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I need to help a friend find a tractor. She bought an old house on 10 or 12 acres. She has too much yard to mow in a timely fashion with a common riding mower. She wants to plow up a fair sized garden, and she has a couple pastures and a road bank to keep the weeds knocked down on. So we are looking for an old tractor. I think it will need either live or independent PTO, some sort of hydraulic system, although I don`t see that it will have to be live, independent or even 2 way. I don`t think it will matter much if it is wide front or tricycle. It will need to pull an old cheap plow, that could be pull type or mounted. Most likely something around the size of a 5 or 6 foot finish mower, and a rougher cut mower, either sickle bar or bush hog type. So what do we consider and what do we by pass? I know sometimes more hp can be had cheaper than less, but still this is a little place. I'd think we would most likely be looking at tractors from the 1940`s to maybe the mid 1960`s. Any help and comments will be appreciated.

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Kent in KC

01-29-2007 06:20:40

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

For $3000 and that size of property, mowing and a little cultivation, it would be hard not to consider something like my '59 Ford 901. It has live PTO, hydraulics, foot clutch, standard 3-pt, parking brake, plenty of power, economical, good visibility, not too big (my wife loves it) and very simple. Parts are widely and cheaply available and it looks good too. A classic in any iron man's (or woman's) book. But that's just me...

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Don L C

01-28-2007 04:00:45

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

I think she needs a Farmall 350...maybe a utulity model

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alarson

01-28-2007 07:09:55

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Don L C, 01-28-2007 04:00:45

Not expecting to find many utility models locally, not something that sold new around here very much.

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mike a. tenn.

01-27-2007 04:35:56

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

tally up all the different tractors in these responses and you'll find the ferguson, or MF, TO-35 way up on top of the list. i have a gas model and it really is good on fuel and simple to work on if you're not that familiar with diesel engines. make sure you get a deluxe model, high low range transmission, two stage clutch. a good 35 will do everything you need it to do, they're low slung so they're stable and easy for a woman, dependable, and you should be able to find one somewhere for around that $3000 mark. for the money it's the best little tractor out there. (my opinion)

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farmerjohninpa

01-26-2007 22:50:47

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

sounds to me like both of yuins have little or no exsperiance with tractors. if this is the case,may i make a safety recommendation. farmall m`s,h`s, allis chalmer wd`s and tractors like these that have a bucket seat that you have to climb on and off on the rear are dangerous because of the pto being there and knowing that your gonna run a bush hog back there,well let me just say that i lost a good friend 20yrs ago, who farmed all his life, when he was bush hoggin a field and went under a limb that just caught him right and knocked him off and under the mower. a side mount tractor like a 424,8n, 9n,jd 2020 and the like would be a safer tractor remember plows and mowers are behind you and you do need to turn and look back at things now and then. john

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alarson

01-28-2007 07:13:07

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to farmerjohninpa, 01-26-2007 22:50:47

Trees limbs aren`t an issue, and the early Fords don`t have the live or independent PTO. There is the safety issue if you ask me.

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woodache

01-26-2007 20:26:30

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Must Have features!Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

FIRST! Have a qualified mechanic look at any tractor you are seriously considering to buy that is independent of the seller! Dont let dents and dings scare you away from good tractors and dont be fooled by a dolled up paint job

List of Must have for modern farm Use
1. Standard 3pt lift built in!
2. Foot clutch
3. Working parking brake
4. Mounting for under tractor draw bar
5. Live PTO
6. Live Hydraulics
7. Hi & low x speed transmission
8. Provision for external Hyds
9. 4 wheels utility type tractors (NO low boys or High crops, or tricycles most Industrial versions to) 10. standard shift transmission (NO automatics or hydromatics, service costs and problems! Hydro use to much fuel)
11. American or English made( italian models are a crap shoot)
Best to have but not necessary
1. Power steering
(only needed if intended for loader application)
2. Diesel engine
(Highly recommended for low cost fuel consumption! almost should be a must have)
You can use untaxed farm diesel in most states, also in the future maybe gov subsidized bio diesel)
3. Axel lock Some recommended tractors
Tops
1. MF 35 series and newer this would include any with needed features. (Under NO circumstances buy a MF35 with the Standard 23C diesel engine. Avoid the MF 12 speed transmission here, repair costs and service problems)
2. Fords 600 thru 900 and 4000
3. IH 300-500 series
4. JD old series 1020 & 1010gas (do not buy a 1010 diesel...)
5. Fordson Dexta diesel or Super Diesel really great tractors for the price! ( a word of caution here some tractor parts are almost impossible to get if you do expect to pay. The engine parts are as easy as any other Perkins 3. But the tractors mostly can be found for a very reasonable price usually less than 8n Fords.)
6. Fordson Supers & Power Majors (a larger tractor but usually really cheap same goes as for the dexta parts)
These are the Top choices There are others but they are obscure and only recommended for those in the know.

Again Under NO circumstances buy a MF35 with the Standard 23C diesel engine. Same do not buy a JD 1010 diesel...

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macgyver101

06-07-2007 23:36:29

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help 1010 problem in reply to woodache, 01-26-2007 20:26:30

i have a john deere 1010 tractor some times when you press teh clutch it makes a weird gringing like noise you can shut off teh tractor an start it right back up no noise what could this problem be

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alarson

01-28-2007 07:19:27

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Re: Must Have features!Re: Which tractors to recom in reply to woodache, 01-26-2007 20:26:30

We`ve added those Fords to the list of tractors to watch for. Seems gas tractors are going cheaper than diesel ones. Fuel taxes aren`t an issue, can get either without road tax added, or get it back at end of year. Fuel consumption for the jobs she`ll be doing won`t make much difference either, not like plowing for several days in a row.

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woodache

01-28-2007 12:01:40

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Fuel (gas) costs adds up quick!! Re: Must Have fea in reply to alarson, 01-28-2007 07:19:27

While it may seem insignificant the fuel cost (gas) the price is higher than farm diesl, but a gasser of the same size and power of diesel will use twice as much fuel! To cut the same amount of weeds that is like paying $4.00 a gallon for diesel! Wow would you do that! I dont think so! the cost of all that money going up your gas exhaust would pay the difference of the price of a diesel on a 10 acre farm in only 1 year! Do the math, not only that the diesels are out there to be had for a deal! I have bought 1 Fordson Dexta diesel with a Ohauled engine in the last 2 years for a $1000. bucks and a MF 35 Deluxe with Perkins 3 diesel for $1500. both running in good condition and will start the engine at "0"* in the winter. I also bought a Fordson Major diesel that run well but needed some work with a a loader for $300. I rolled it off the trailer and cut 200 acres of hey before working on it.
Try putting a wanted ad on Craigslist in your area the sellers will come out of the woodwork!

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alarson

01-28-2007 16:02:11

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Re: Fuel (gas) costs adds up quick!! Re: Must Have in reply to woodache, 01-28-2007 12:01:40

we`ll try Craigslist, thanks. Nebraska test show most gas tractors use only about 20% more fuel than the identical diesel models. Take the D17 we are considering, that isn`t really much difference for mowing.

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RodInNS

01-26-2007 20:12:47

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Well, if you go looking at Ford's, I don't think your budget will work, but you never know.
From the mid-50's you could look at a 660 or an 860. They will have the 5 speed transmission and live PTO and Live hydraulics. Remote hydraulics were optional, so that's hit and miss. The 5 speed transmission was also available without live PTO and those would be model 650 or 850, again with live hydraulics. The X40 tractors had the 4 speed transmission, and that was not available with live PTO, but did have live hydraulics. Parts are readily available for those tractors. The X01 series followed the hundred series, so the models would have changed to 661 and 861 and so on..... Same basic tractor, although a diesel engine option was added, and the much talked about Select-O-Speed in 1959. I wouldn't call that a begineers transmission, but it's got it's followers. Those tractors will often be cheaper, and have independant PTO....
The x01 series then morphed into the 2000 and 4000 models, with a plethora of options that formerly defined the different series numbers, but they are the same basic tractors as the hundred and 01 series.
In 1965 the "real" thousand series was unveiled. These were the 2000, 3000, 4000, and the 5000. The bottom end on the 2000 ranged from a 4 speed transmission with non-live pto, to a 6 speed with both non live and live PTO, an 8 speed with live and non live PTO and independant PTO on the 4000 and 5000, and the S-O-S throughout the range. You've got to watch the 2000 and 3000 as some have live PTO and some don't, and there are no external clues. The only way to tell is operate the PTO. Most, but not all have live hydraulics. Many had power steering.
Personally, I'd be looking for an early 70's model 4000.... It will have 52 PTO hp, ind. PTO, a bulletproof 8 speed transmission, and the weight to do some real work. It's more than she'll need, but a good tractor. As far as I'm concerned, it's right up there for "best tractor ever built" Anyhooo... 3000 might be more the size needed, just watch that you get the right options. Go with diesel if at all possible, but the gassers are still strong engines. I'd just hate to feed gas to one. Again, personally I'd go with an early 70's model like the 3000 or 4000 with an 8 speed (live PTO on the 3000), power steering, and diesel. They're a considerably stronger tractor than the mid 50's models, although people will argue that. Anyway, I've rambled enough, but I still think you're looking more at 6 grand than 3 grand. It might be the best "extra" 3 grand ever spent... Good luck.

Rod

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alarson

01-28-2007 07:00:20

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to RodInNS, 01-26-2007 20:12:47

Thanks for the Ford education, that was very helpful.

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kmcamp

01-26-2007 19:30:23

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

I think that a 40 horse or so would do fine, most important, I would get something that you can get parts for close by....

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nickg

01-26-2007 18:48:16

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Sounds to me like if you got an farmall or ac you would want a wide front end. I am a little partial to green but I have a soft spot for farmalls too. I have a farmall super m/ta with wide front. I like it but i think in her situation you would be better with 3 point and live hyd. Have you thought about like a 2520 or 2020. Those are really good little tractors for the $

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135 Fan

01-26-2007 16:13:05

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

A 4020 is way too much tractor for 10 acres. They aren't exactly easy on fuel either. As far as being the best tractor built, they are good but I don't think the best. An MF 35 is the most copied tractor in the world. There must be a reason for this. I have a 135 which is an improved version of the 35. It replaced an 8N because we needed a live PTO for cutting grass. You need a 3 pt. hitch and no other tractor compares to the Ferguson system. Power steering is only needed if you plan to install a loader. Manual steering is easy to turn and less prone to problems. All 135's are good but if you can find a Perkins diesel, they are the best. Extremely easy on fuel and easy to start. Second choice would be a Perkins gas because according to owners they are cheaper to repair then Continentals. You will probably have to spend a little more than $3000 but you are far better off. You wouldn't want to buy a tractor only to have to replace it for what you really need. MF's are very straight forward tractors with simple controls and good reliability. A 135 would work excellent for 10 acres. A good 35 would be worth looking at as well. You could move up to a 165 as sometimes they are around the same price. MF 50's and 150's are almost the same as 35's and 135's except for the front axle. Hope this helps. Dave

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alarson

01-28-2007 06:57:45

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to 135 Fan, 01-26-2007 16:13:05

I agree, a 4020 is too much tractor. However if one came along at the right price, what's a little extra fuel. I do think those MF`s sound like the deal, we`ll just have too see how the prices run.

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Bob

01-26-2007 15:18:40

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Here's my little IH 424 diesel, still in it's "work clothes".

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There are a few of these around, and they are a GREAT little tractor... nearly 40 HP, live hydraulics, live PTO, 3-point, and power steering. (Mine has add-on power steering, but factory PS was available.)

There was a "gasser" on ebay recently, which didn't make reserve. (Auction # 270078946156, if you care to take a look.)

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JMS/MN

01-26-2007 15:02:00

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

You talk about buying 40s-50s- tractor/equipment for $3000. Certainly possible. Full-time farmers ran a quarter section or more back then with the same. You can buy an AC WD, with live hydraulics and live pto for under $1000. Two bottom plow for $150. Seven foot sickle mower for $250. Belly mower for a grand or less. Add a trip-bucket loader for $2-300. Pull type brush hog does not need overrunning coupler or 3pt. Or Farmall, Ford, JD, Oliver, Moline etc. most w/o live power are in the same range. JD 4020 for ten acres? Super overkill, farmers used to run a section or two with that. Mid 50s Case SC with a hand clutch? Any live power?

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alarson

01-28-2007 06:53:54

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to JMS/MN, 01-26-2007 15:02:00

That sure sounds like a plan.

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26Red

01-26-2007 14:31:54

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Sounds like a job for a utility model- an IH 300 or 350, or MF 135, or newer ford utility would be the best choice. But your price rangs is more along the lines of a Farmall A,C, H, M or Allis WD.

H and M"s can be bought cheaply. $1000 to $2000.
No live pto or live hydraulics though. A 3pt hitch (aftermarket)is about $600.

If it were me, I"d find a farmall A with a belley mower, and then get a H to pull a plow or run a rough cut mower.

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alarson

01-26-2007 14:39:27

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to 26Red, 01-26-2007 14:31:54

The utility models are plenty hard to come by, but then you never know when you will stumble across one. Did the Super H or Super M have live or independent PTO?

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26Red

01-27-2007 18:13:58

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 14:39:27

Only the super MTA had live pto. Otherwise you"re looking at a farmall 300,350,400,450. these can be found with live hyd and live pto. Some have a factory 2pt hitch that can be converted to 3pt for $250. I wouldn"t get hung up on those to features though. If you want to stay cheap and simple, get two tractors with the implements mounted (belly mower or sickle mower, and other with mid mounted culitvator standard draw bar for a trailering plow).

Check out www.farmall-h.com, lots of good info on there.

Other models to consider:
Farmall A, Super A, C Super C, 100, 130, 140- these can be found with belley mowers and live hydraulis easily, but they cost a little more (2500 or so).

An Allis WD-45 would be a fit the bill also.

H webpage

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alarson

01-26-2007 14:37:57

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to 26Red, 01-26-2007 14:31:54

The utility models are plenty hard to come by, but then you never know when you will stumble across one. Did the Super H or Super M have live or independent PTO?

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David in Wales

01-26-2007 14:25:16

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PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Hi Gang;
I can thoroughly recomend the Massey Ferguson 135 tractor which is one of the best tractors ever made Worldwide.
Compact size, economical to run, parts available at reasonable cost, easy to drive & use with live hydraulics & PTO. During the late 1960's & early 1970's in England they took 25% market share.
I cant believe what I've said (I am a Fordson die-hard) but its true.
This was my 1966 diesel 135 after total bebuild.
Cheers David

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R Walton

01-27-2007 22:33:02

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Re: PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to David in Wales, 01-26-2007 14:25:16

David, what the h*ll is that all over the ground....green carpet?? Is that dandelions?? Sheesh...hate dandelions, but would love to see that green stuff around here..... .sick of winter.

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James2

01-26-2007 16:52:09

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Re: PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to David in Wales, 01-26-2007 14:25:16

Agree with the others have said, one very nice looking tractor and would be a perfect match for what she needs, if she was so lucky to find one near this condition. How do you use it? Show only or perhaps with a rotary mower? Over here winter blade work would be a good possibility, but I know you don't get this nasty snow.

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135 Fan

01-26-2007 16:32:10

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Re: PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to David in Wales, 01-26-2007 14:25:16

Very nice tractor! What do you mean was? Did you sell it? That's too nice of a tractor to let go. Probably worth a little more than $3000 I would guess.LoL. I have a 1965 UK 135 with multi-power, loader and a MF 20 Industrial cab from a US model. For some reason the floor boards are 3 inches lower on the UK model. One of these days I'd like to clean it all up like your tractor. Maybe when its working days are over. It might be while. Dave

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mike a. tenn.

01-26-2007 15:45:53

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Re: PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to David in Wales, 01-26-2007 14:25:16

david...su-weet looking 135! nice job. i agree about them being great tractors. i have a TO-35 that is just about the same tractor as the 135 and i think you can't beat them all around.

-mike

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alarson

01-26-2007 14:46:04

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Re: PHOTO - best small tractor MF 135 in reply to David in Wales, 01-26-2007 14:25:16

Looks like 135`s are averaging $4500 to $5000 at least at dealer lots in the US. The 35`s are around $1000 less than that. Of course that`s asking price, I`m sure they would take more. LOL We are more likely to be going to some auctions this spring to see more of what is out there and what they are really selling for.

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Raleigh boulware

01-26-2007 13:47:35

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Arlson,
The John deere 4020 is the best tractor you can buy for the money. It at one time was the best tractor that was EVER put on the ground! It totally set the standard for tractors in its day.
For around 8000.00 not only would a 4020 be an awsome machine, it could be a good investment.

If you don't mind going with a gas model tractor Richie Tractor in Maynardville TN has a tractor that I would recomend to ANY one!!! A 4020Gas model..The service there was ABSOLUTLY GREAT, for they had to put up with my B.S. for a month straight. I did not buy the tractor because it was not a diesel. But for 3900.00 you can not find a better tractor any where!!!

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alarson

01-26-2007 14:01:08

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Raleigh boulware, 01-26-2007 13:47:35

A 4020 for $3900? Even if it is a gas model, are you sure you didn't leave a 1 off the front of that number? Sounds like the butcher who was selling ground beef for .99 a pound. No matter when you stopped in, he had just sold the last package a couple minutes ago.

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Raleigh

01-26-2007 17:52:40

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 14:01:08

No seriously!!! He has it advertised at 5200.00 now but It can be bought for 3900!! It is a Good deal on a 4020...1965 model. So it has the old styel gas motor

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jerrycpp(WA)

01-26-2007 13:44:20

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

For the kind of money she has to spend, I would suggest a Massey Ferguson 35, or if possible, a MF-135. Both models come in gas or diesel, have independant PTO and live hydraulic. Most also have power steering, a very important option. Parts and service are available almost everywhere, and there are thousands of them around. Yes, I have a 135, Perkins 3 cylinder gas; It replaced an 8N and a Ferguson TO-20. I would not trade it for any other tractor.

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alarson

01-26-2007 14:04:12

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to jerrycpp(WA), 01-26-2007 13:44:20

I knew the diesel was a 3 cylinder, but I just supposed the gas was a 4 cylinder.

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135 Fan

01-26-2007 16:20:59

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 14:04:12

The Perkins gas is 3 cylinder. Actually shares a lot of components with the diesel making it a very heavy duty gasser. The Continental engines are 4 cylinder. They are a good engine as well. Dave

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Dave H (MI)

01-26-2007 13:25:49

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

Ford 20 series tractor from the late '80's or early '90's would be a REAL nice safe tractor that would do all that. The 1520 is my personal favorite as I bought mine new in 1989. Might be an issue with the budget unless the sheet metal was really rough because they are nice tractors.

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:43:44

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Dave H (MI), 01-26-2007 13:25:49

Ironsearch lists an 1120 in the price ballpark, but the bigger one are way more money. No doubt dandy tractors though.

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Dave H (MI)

01-26-2007 13:25:24

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FreeRanger

01-26-2007 13:18:47

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

I know Ford's can be purchase in the range of $2k to $3k with 3pt and PTO. I have a Ford 600 model 640 that does everything a small acrage could want. Make hay, disc fields, mow, etc....

But if you really are just mowing alot of acres, STOP IT! don't be a fool! Your killing the wildlife by destroying the habitat. Your taxes will go up because you are maintaining "recreatational" land, instead of ag land. Find someone who will raise sheep on your land, or grow crops. They can use their tractor to make a big garden space in exchange for harvesting hay.

Sorry about that.....now that I got that out of my system. Here is the really normal response: Get yourself a zero turn mower.

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:39:32

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to FreeRanger, 01-26-2007 13:18:47

Ford 600 and 640? Ok, thanks. Quite a few Fords around the area. I think she`ll run a calf or two on the grass, not in the winter though. Others have been telling her she needs a zero turn, but I honestly don`t see her laying out the money of one of those, but I could be wrong.

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Hugh MacKay

01-26-2007 13:14:56

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

alarson: Being the old dyed in the woll Farmall guy that I am and from your description, I'd have to go MF 35 or 135, Ford 3000. I base that on your friend's intended use. You have the Ferguson system 3 point hitch for just about every job you listed and live PTO.

My first choice would be the MF 35 or 135, just the best little tractor ever in that size and configuration. All the implement she buys can be 3 point hitch. Now, if I were advising a lady and wanted to stay in her good graces,I'd go MF. MF will not let you down.

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Hard Knocks

01-26-2007 12:53:50

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

For the money a WD Allis Chalmers is hard to beat
good ones in running condition can be had for around $1000.3pt conversions if needed run about $400 to $500 although their life system works real well

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:16:31

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Hard Knocks, 01-26-2007 12:53:50

That is exactly what I am seeing, but I didn't want to overlook something that I was less familiar with. Case, for example, I don't know their models and features at all. Somewhat the same with Farmall and IH, particularly with the live PTO issue.

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Raleigh boulware

01-26-2007 12:14:37

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

How much money do you or she wants to spend?

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alarson

01-26-2007 12:44:08

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Raleigh boulware, 01-26-2007 12:14:37

$3000. or less

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RustyFarmall

01-26-2007 13:10:44

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 12:44:08

I don't think you will find what you need, and is dependable, for $3,000. Better plan on spending at least $6,000.

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:54:26

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-26-2007 13:10:44

As someone suggested, and we had already found, there are several models of Allis Chalmers tractors that are usually well within that price range. Also of course the early Fords, which I wanted her to stay away from. John Deeres for the most part go to collectors who are willing to pay more money for them than people who want to work them. But I just didn't know who else had the live PTO back in those days.

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Raleigh

01-26-2007 17:57:15

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 13:54:26

If you go for the D series tractor WATCH OUT!! the have a bad history of transmision problems!!!!

Also, WATCH OUT for the diesel in the D series as well. They had a bad history of cracking the head!!!

But other than that they are good tractors....

If you go with John deere WATCH OUT!!! There are no problems with them, and they will increase in value as time goes on!!

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alarson

01-28-2007 07:07:30

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to Raleigh, 01-26-2007 17:57:15

No problem LOL, I'll keep that in mind. We`ll just buy the first green one we see.

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RustyFarmall

01-26-2007 14:08:40

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 13:54:26

Yes, there are several older models that will fit your needs, but some of those tractors are not particularly user friendly to a person who has little experience with operating a tractor. $3,000 will buy the tractor, but if it needs tires, add another $1,000. If it needs clutch work, probably another $1,000, and if the engine needs a rebuild?

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evielboweviel

01-26-2007 12:05:58

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

awful hard to beat a new Kubota if you can afford it.
next choice would be a MF 35 deluxe or 135 or an Oliver S55, 550
using a mower you defintly want live or independent pto as the other one will get you in trouble pushing the tractor forward after the clutch is pushed in. this will land her in a ditch, in a fence, or trying to drive thru a tree or bldg
Ron

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alarson

01-26-2007 12:52:23

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to evielboweviel, 01-26-2007 12:05:58

"... a new Kubota..." LOL I obviously didn`t stress her rather frugal nature enough.

Olivers aren`t exactly in every barn around here, but those do look like very good models to be on the look out for. Same with the MF 35 or 135 which might be a little more plentiful and popular ($$$$) also.

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jhill52

01-26-2007 11:53:42

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

I think I would start by seeing what brand dealerships are close by. Since it is a woman she may need some service work done and certainlt she will need parts from time to time. That said it is hard to beat a Ford 2000 or 3000 or a Massey Ferguson 135. Both can had with all the features you want and are reasonably priced. Also parts are readily available.

Jerry

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:09:30

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to jhill52, 01-26-2007 11:53:42

JD and AGCO dealers in the area.
She has an uncle and cousin who turn a wrench on things for her. Are there any earlier Fords than the 2000/3000, that would fit the bill? I am trying to get through to her that the N series isn't what she wants.

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jhill52

01-26-2007 13:21:06

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson , 01-26-2007 13:09:30

Yes some of the 800 and 600 Fords come with power steering snd Live Power., Better to stay away from the Selecto Speed tractors as parts are getting hard to get.

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RickL

01-26-2007 11:48:17

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to alarson, 01-26-2007 11:44:50

have a 1650 Oliver for sale that would work real nice for you

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alarson

01-26-2007 13:25:32

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Re: Which tractors to recomend in reply to RickL, 01-26-2007 11:48:17

I agree it would work real nice. But unless you just won the lottery and giving away your old toys in order to make room to buy new ones, an 1650 is going to be too much money. And maybe a little too tall for her barn.

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