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37 chief

01-24-2007 12:37:52




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I need a little help here on a Flail mower I looked at. first I don't know the model, but from pictures it looks like a Mott brand. Sitting on the tractor the drive belt is on the right, most others I see are on the left. There is a flat piece of metal across the complete front about 12in wide. I don't know what this does. It is 6 ft wide, and not all beat up for 700.00 Are the mott brands ok Any help appreciated. Stan

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135 Fan

01-24-2007 16:35:45




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 12:37:52  
Mott are the top of the line flail mowers. They were bought out by Alamo after Mr. Mott was killed landing his plane on his private air strip. His father worked as an engineer for IH and invented the flail mower. IH wasn't too interested so he started his own company. The super heavy duty models are the best. They have about a 4 1/2 inch cutter shaft and usually wider spaced and bigger knives or "Hammer Knives" as Mott called them. The new Alamo machines are very similar. They also made a heavy duty model that had about a 2 or 2 1/2 inch cutter shaft. Although not as heavy as the super duty still a well built unit. Most of these were supplied with the fine blade cutter shaft. It had more blades closer together that were smaller. They both used the same gearbox. It could be on either side depending if it was reverse rotation or not. One of the easiest ways to tell if it's a Mott is the frame is heavier gauge and has pipe across the front and back. Also the knives all have individual pins and cotter pins. Motts have one belt with a simple spring tensioner on it. Mott had regular and dethatching blades. The dethatching blades were straight. The cutting blades consisted of two opposing "L" shaped blades that were free swinging back and forth. The super heavy duty model had ring mounted blades that could swing in all directions. The metal across the front could be an additional deflector shield to throw cuttings down. Being 6 feet wide it's probably a heavy duty model. The super heavy duty was 74 inches wide or 88. The best thing about a flail, other than that it is way safer than a rotary, is that it uses less power and can cut down really tall grass and weeds in one pass. If it's not a Mott, there are several other brands such as Ford, JD, Mathews ect. Look on the Alamo site. Hope this helps. Dave

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37 chief

01-25-2007 14:57:07




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 135 Fan, 01-24-2007 16:35:45  
Fan, thanks for the info. it helped, the mower I looked at does have the pin, and cptter pin to hold the blades, This apears to be a finish mower, with the blades it has on it now. will I be wasting my money buying this? Will I be able to install larger blades to cut heaver stuff? Do you have any idea on how many blades a 6 ft cutter will hold? thanks again Stan



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37 chief

01-24-2007 15:40:56




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 12:37:52  
Since my post about my mower, I found out since it is a right hand drive it throws the cuttings to the front, and it also has a lot of blades which tells me it is more for finish work maybe a golf coarse? I don't think it will be good in my mowing business, where I get a lot of high weeds, and brush. Any thoughts, Stan



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MarkB_MI

01-24-2007 19:26:47




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 15:40:56  
I believe the "reverse" flail mowers are intended to chop up brush and weeds, while the "standard" mowers are for finish work.

I have a Mott F6 flail mower and a brush hog, and I've learned not to use the flail mower in heavy brush. I usually lose several knifes any time I hit a stump. Also, you can damage the roller or shaft if you hit a big rock or stump. These parts are outrageously expensive to replace, so you don't want to take any chances.

I have bought parts from Montage Enterprises (link below). Although they are quite a bit cheaper than Alamo, the quality is definitely not as good.

My recommendation is to buy it if it looks to be in good condition. It's nice to have a flail mower for when you need a better finish than a brush hog will give you. The thing I like most about a flail mower is that it picks up the grass or weeds that your tractor tires flatten out. I think you get a better finish with a flail mower than any mower other than a reel type mower.

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KEG

01-24-2007 14:56:01




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 12:37:52  
Also, make sure it has the name plate on it somewhere. I was given a Mott flail mower and (finally) was able to get the parts I needed but it took several calls to the guys at Alamo to get it figured out since I didn"t have a model number.

Here"s a note I wrote to myself at the time:
Mott is now part of the Alamo Group, 1502 E. Walnut, Seguin, TX 78155. To find a dealer near you that handles Mott parts, call 800.882.5762 >Link

Also,>Link you could try>Link

KEG>Link

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51Pony

01-24-2007 14:46:52




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 12:37:52  
Mott's a good name. I've had one on the tractor and a small push mower for over 30 years. Mow every week with them. Mike's right, Flailmaster bought them out a few years ago. They helped me on the website get new knives for both. Email me for pictures.



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Mike M

01-24-2007 13:00:55




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 Re: Flaol mower in reply to 37 chief, 01-24-2007 12:37:52  
I got a 5 1/2' Ford for $400 that runs fine. In Ohio .Mott is a good name brand. try www.flailmaster.com for parts. make sure the rotor isn't bent it will vibrate and ask for a trial run to make sure it works.



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