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dboll

01-19-2007 06:20:08




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Was 49 the first year of merc. cars? I don't remember seeing any mercs. older but i wasn't made until 67 so I wasn't sure. I was told the 49 merc. was to be the 49 Ford but Ford opted to modernize their design to keep pace with GM ect.




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George G

01-19-2007 16:21:37




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
Here"s some flathead spec"s



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rustyj14

01-19-2007 16:48:29




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to George G, 01-19-2007 16:21:37  
Wow! That site brings back lots of memories! I started fooling with Fords, from Model T to A, and then into the V/8s, from 1946, when i got out of the army! Even did some dirt track racing for a year or so. Had a whole list of Fords. We could buy them cheap! $100 or less, and they usually ran great! I used them for many years for driving to work. But, all good things do come to an end. Prices kept climbing, people got to making more money, and the older Fords went to the race track, or the junk yards! From 1949 on, they got to be not so good, and higher priced, so when i got a good one, i kept it for family use! Ahh, for the good old days!

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Jim in N M

01-19-2007 11:42:13




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
dboll, the first year for the Mercury was 1939. Jim in N M



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ken in texas

01-19-2007 10:22:42




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
In answer to the question about the 49 Ford pickup as far as I know they all used the same engine as the Ford cars.Yours was probably changed out to the Mercury, I had an uncle that installed a cadilac v8 engine and trans in his 49 or 50 Ford pickup . It was FAST.



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ken in texas

01-19-2007 10:12:11




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
The ford flathead used by the mercury start ing in 49 used a longer stroke crankshaft and maybe larger bore ,not sure.They were in demand by the hot rodders and by using other special parts made a fast car for the times.



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rustyj14

01-19-2007 16:56:10




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to ken in texas, 01-19-2007 10:12:11  
Ken: I stuffed a '49 Mercury engine into a 1940 Ford Sedan Delivery truck, which made that truck stand up and paw at the air! It had the old rear end in it, and the stock tranny! I had to get the 1949 Ford flathead truck bell housing, which was steel, instead of cast into the tranny, to make the Merc engine bolt up to the tranny! Then, i made a pickup out of it, which gave it more power, with the lighter weight! MMMM- HMMMM!

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jdemaris

01-19-2007 09:19:11




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
I'm no expert on Fords/Mercurys - but this discussion leads me to a question. I've got a 1949 Ford pickup with a flathead Mercury 255 V-8. Were these put into trucks OEM? Truck looks all original - but who knows?



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RWK in WI

01-19-2007 18:32:45




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to jdemaris, 01-19-2007 09:19:11  
There were "Ford" pickup rebadged with "Mercury" name plates on them sold in Canada. I believe even the engines had "Mercury" on them. One of these engines sometimes made it into a "Ford" truck.



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massey333

01-19-2007 10:05:57




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to jdemaris, 01-19-2007 09:19:11  
JD no,that 255 throws me a curve as I don't remember that as a Flathead size.Mercury had a upgraded engine but that number don't sound like it.The trucks used the 239 and 331 or 336 Lincoln engine.If you say it is 255 then I won't disagree.



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Duner Wi

01-19-2007 10:16:14




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to massey333, 01-19-2007 10:05:57  
In 1949 the Mercury engine received a 1/4 longer stroke than the flat head Ford and 255 cu. in.
In 1954 the 239 Ford OHV was bored out 1/8 inch and 256 cu. in. This engine std. in Mercury and optional in Ford pick ups. This is what I think I remember anyways.



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Bill(Wis)

01-19-2007 14:54:17




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to Duner Wi, 01-19-2007 10:16:14  
Nolan's article below provides a good history of Mercury. In 1949 they were taken away from Ford and put into the new Lincoln Mercury division. Styling was more like Lincoln than Ford.



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HWes

01-19-2007 07:51:28




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
39 was the first year for Ford's Mercury, however there were at least six other cars bearing the name Mercury from 1903 to 1923 including a steamer and a cyclecar.



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Nolan

01-19-2007 07:28:31




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
Some might enjoy reading this article on the origins of Mercury.



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GETRDUN

01-19-2007 06:49:23




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
What was changed in the Mercury to give it more H.P.?



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Bill(Wis)

01-19-2007 14:50:52




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to GETRDUN, 01-19-2007 06:49:23  
Increasing the flatheads displacement to 239 cu in. Hp went from 85 to 95.



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Bill(Wis)

01-19-2007 06:39:37




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
Bill Pfeifer is correct, it was the 1939 model. My uncle bought one and drove it during the War years. Henry Ford described it as "the car we would build if it wern't for the competition". It was mean't to take on the Pontiac, Buick, Olds segment of the market but sales were disappointing initially. It was basically a beefed up, trimmed up, powered up Ford. It used the same basic flathead V8 as Ford but had a few more HP.

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Bill Pfeifer

01-19-2007 06:26:06




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 Re: first year of mercury cars in reply to dboll, 01-19-2007 06:20:08  
1939



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