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hip roof barn roof replacement / repair

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Kenabcd

01-07-2007 19:15:05




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I am looking at a abandoned farmsite with 40 acres to purchase. The buildings are mostly worse than nothing. The house was log construction and had a fire, the value would be more if they had not put it out. It is only good for raccoons and woodchucks.

The gem (if it is) is a hip roof barn. The bottom is cement block with cement floor and gutters. There is only one door big enough to get a ford tractor in. The lumber for the loft floor is planed tongue and groove, the ceiling joists are 2x12 also planed. I think that dates the barn as late 50"s or early 60"s. It seems about that old. There is about 6" of loose oat straw in the loft dry and yellow. The loft floor from underneath looks great, no rot or damage. The roof trusses look structurally sound. I believe they are built up from four 1" boards. The roof sheathing and shingles look like they need some help though. I think the best thing to do may be go for some type of re-roofing. I would guess the barn is about 40x60" with 8" sidewalls. The hayloft it pretty giant looks like you could fly model airplanes in it, at least once the overhead conveyers were removed.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a system that could replace the existing roof or cover over the existing roof that would make it tight enough to possibly turn into a cabin like living space or...

If anyone has reroofed a structure similar to this building in the past, I would be interested in hearing about what material was selected and the cost of the job.

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Leland

01-08-2007 20:53:47




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
got any amish close ,they redid our barn and they were about the cheapest as well .Good point is that they still build barns .



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nobody

01-08-2007 19:36:51




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
My neighbors reroofed their hiproof barn,it had wood shingles on it. They nailed 2x4's to the trusses,then screwed white painted steel to the 2x4's,and trimed the edges with steel to cover the gap left by the 2x4,s. It's a great looking job.



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Dean Barker

01-08-2007 08:55:08




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
In the early 80's, my two boys and I reroofed our hip roof barn with new cedar shingles. We removed all the old shingles down to the roof boards. We soaked the new shingles in the horse tank, and then nailed them on two rows at a time after making two chalk lines to keep things straight. By soaking the shingles first, they can be installed with out any side gaps, and will conform to any curvature of the roof and will not split when nailed. When installing two rows at a time, the new shingle you pick up will fit one row or another with out it's edge lining up with the edge underneath. We borrowed scaffolding from a neighbor that just sat up against the side of the barn. The roof brackets were nailed on and then covered with shingles and could easily be removed later. The shingles came with the farm, so the cost was just our labor. Cedar shingles will last 40 to 50 years on the average. Good luck on your project.

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NEsota

01-08-2007 08:37:26




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
Would strongly second the recommendations for shingle removal before installing tin and buying tin cut to length.



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Bill in NorthCentral Pa

01-08-2007 05:30:17




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  

29 gauge painted steel, galvalume substrate is better, but galvanized is ok. Measure all of the roof planes in a diagram and go to a reputable supplier and order to length (even with added waste it is far cheaper to custom order. Think about the trims and lengths to make it attractive. I recommend shingle removal, but at a minimum, break off the tabs and felt prior to installing steel.

Another option is to 2x4 purlin (1.5") and fill in with 1.5" rigid dow board insulation.

Good luck - restoring barns might be as much fun as a guy can have and be legal.

Bill

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paul

01-07-2007 22:53:30




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
Metal.

3-tab blows off something that big, & the locking tabs someone mentioned blow off even quicker in our experience.

--->Paul



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JMS/MN

01-08-2007 21:24:49




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to paul, 01-07-2007 22:53:30  
I was thinking of a quonset/gothic roof when I posted- not hip roof! Certainly is a difference.



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two mile

01-07-2007 20:17:23




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
Several years ago we put a metal roof over wood shingles. We used 26 guage material rather than the standard 29 guage stuff. 10% thicker and we wanted the extra stiffness. If you shop around sometimes you can find seconds for a pretty good discount, but you may need to paint it sooner. Ours was a standard gable roof but costs would be similar to a hip roof. Shorter sheets would be easier to handle, and you'll need a little more trim. Sounds like you found a structurally sound building that is worth protecting. Around here there are several barns falling down in various stages of decay. Every one of them resulted from a neglected roof. I am not familiar with current cost. I know that steel has gone up.

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JMS/MN

01-07-2007 19:56:10




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
If you reshingle rather than use another material, do not use 3tab shingles on a hip roof. They don't lay flat enough and will come loose with wind, especially if a silo is near- it messes up the wind currents. Need the interlocking type- bit more price, but will last. Couple of my neighbors found that out the hard way- tgried to save a few dollars and redid them in less than 10 years.



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Tuggle

01-07-2007 19:51:10




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
I knew a guy who turn an old dairy barn into a living quarters. Sound just like what you're looking at. He turn the bottom into the kitchen/bath and bed rooms. He put all the plumbing and electrical in the gutters and filled with cement. The loft is the game room/living area, TV room, what ever.....even a rope hanging for the kids to swing.



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wayne2

01-07-2007 19:36:11




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 Re: hip roof barn roof replacement / repair in reply to Kenabcd , 01-07-2007 19:15:05  
Tin,it's good looking know a days and will last. Wayne



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