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jd jim a

01-04-2007 22:16:45




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Thinking about purchasing a flatbed trailer for hauling big square bales, tractors, skidloaders, what have you. I would like to be able to haul 4020 or 806 size tractors for short distances, and smaller tractors for possibly several hundered miles. I have a 2002 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 with a fifth wheel plate. Is this enough truck to handle these jobs safely? I see one trailer on the internet that has a GVW rating of 14000 lbs, and an empty weight of 4800 lbs. I take it that means I could safely load 9200 lbs. on this trailer? What options would you not want to be without- dual wheels, ect.? If I was to hire myself out to haul tractors for other people just to make a little extra cash, what sort of problems could I run into, how would I want to insure the trailer for liability if a tractor not belonging to me was damaged/involed in an accident? What does a trailer usually cost to insure?

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hawken79

01-06-2007 08:02:13




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
26001 and up is cdl with straight truck, 10001 and up is cdl with combination. this is nationwide



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mlauk

01-05-2007 10:35:58




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
A trailer over 10K requires a CDL only when the GCWR is 26001 pounds or more.

The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.

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Walt Davies

01-05-2007 10:25:16




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
i have an old single axle tilt trailer that I rebuilt last summer. I found a tandem setup with heavy duty axles and 4 wheel brakes on it for $100 like new tires also. I'm going to install that under the trailer this spring. Should make a very nice trailer for hauling tractors up to about 6000 lbs. Maybe my Case LA for a very, very short distance. Walt



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Oldmax

01-05-2007 05:48:34




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
Remember a trailer of 10,000 lbs GVW or over is DOT regulated most people around here keep trailers under 9000 lbs GVW . In this state you buy a perment tag cost $60 for tag taxes and title fee for 7000 lb trailer one time only neaver have to buy tags as long as you own the trailer . In KY you dont need title or tags for utility trailer of any size .



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Chad Franke

01-05-2007 08:47:12




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to Oldmax, 01-05-2007 05:48:34  
It may very by state, but if GCVW isn't over 26K, it's not a CDL rig (at least here). Now, if you have a one ton (about 11K) and a tandem gooseneck (14K) you are still legal. However, get a tandem dual (20K) and you will need a CDL to drive it (empty or loaded, 3/4 ton or 1 ton).

Best bet, go to a local weigh station and ask what the state's requirements are.

And the others are right, brakes are more important than power. Going isn't a problem, old trucks commonly had 6 cylinder engines. When that car jumps out in front of you is when your choice is determined to be good or bad...

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JT

01-05-2007 10:31:33




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to Chad Franke, 01-05-2007 08:47:12  
From what I understand, you are a CDL rig if your trailer GVWR is over 10,001.



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John (C-IL)

01-05-2007 10:14:34




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to Chad Franke, 01-05-2007 08:47:12  
Every state is the same, it's a federal law, and the trailer weight is 10,000# for the DOT/CDL rules to apply.

Now, registration is a state issue. Some states have the towing vehicle registered with the total weight of the combination. In Illinois each vehicle stands on it's own.



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dej(JED)

01-05-2007 04:59:07




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
I would make sure that I had the highest ply tires I could get on truck. Your weight with an 806 is going to put a lot of stress on the rear end of the pickup. That and good brakes on the trailer will be a must.



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big hunter

01-05-2007 03:58:39




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 Re: trailer questions in reply to jd jim a, 01-04-2007 22:16:45  
make sure you have very good brakes on the trailer...going isn't the problem it's stopping thats the issue. i don't hire out I just haul my own equipment...my 20 ton trailer cost me around 300 a year and my 10,000lb. trailer is like 160 a year...I think that the truck is the one that carries the liability.



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