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Don L C

01-02-2007 18:18:08




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What do you think about retirement in Mexico....?some land to play on and cheaper cost of living...I want to hear from west Texans on this subject..... I have been to Eagle Pass and crossed the border there.....I think I could adjust and fit in... how about their taxes and cost of living..... Don




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KIP in MX

01-03-2007 11:38:42




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
Iīve been in Mexico for seven years now. The cost of living where I am (Campeche) is about the same as the US. Canīt help with retirement and taxes because I am working and the company takes care of my taxes.



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Walt Davies

01-03-2007 08:51:22




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
I have a very good Mexican friend who came here in 1986 was was able to stay and become a citizen and now has 7 kids and loves it here. But he also has family down in the middle of Mexico San Pedro a small town. The family has a cattle ranch there and his eldest son stays there now working on the ranch and rodeoing. Victor is one of the few Mexicans that I have ever liked his whole family is like him. On the other hand i live in Oregon and we have lots of illegals here most of which work hard at getting all they can from the government for free. They think they are entitled to it. they also have gangs and shootouts and all kinds of drug problems.
Just seeing this tells me there must be a lot of it in Mexico when the only law down there is how much money you have in your pocket.
I'm going to stay up here until i see a very big change in the way it is down there.
But like I say there are alot of good people down there I know i have some as good friends.
Walt

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Howard H.

01-02-2007 23:30:21




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  

I've got family down there and have been there several times. We drove from Amarillo to Acapulco on a three week trip one time - staying in different places along the way.

It is a fascinating place with a fascinating history. To me, the contrasts between the USA and Mexico stem in large part from it's history. The Mexican indians were crushed and turned into slaves by the Spaniards. The Spaniards didn't want to work - they just wanted the spoils. The natives had most of their culture and means of making a living stripped from them.

Their government has never really come to close to "getting it right" to foster free enterprise and justice for all like in the USA.

Some of the bad:

1) cops & gov tend to be crooked which usually means they don't care or help you, but SOMETIMES means they'll draw a bead on you and then you better REALLY be careful. 2) a lot of the poverty is worse than anything you've ever seen in most of the US. 3) pollution can be worse - it's often hard to breathe in Mexico City. 4) petty theft like shoplifting or pickpockets or swiping your suitcase is much worse down there. 5) Gasoline/oil production and all gas stations are controlled by the state and it is more expensive and less quality than in the US. 6) Water quality is nowhere nearly as consistent as in the US.

Some of the good:

1) Labor is VERY cheap - haircuts, body work on vehicles, very artistic construction work, anything like that that has a lot of labor in it, is way cheaper than the US. Even health care - we had about 6 family members in to a nice doctor in Mexico City for probably 3 hours. Treated everyone extremely well - spent a lot of time with each person, etc. It was $57 including medicine for everything. Nothing like the US health care that thinks there is no end to what people can pay. And in my opinion, we all got top notch care. 2) Most people there are very friendly and courteous - often they would come up and offer to give directions, etc... And seemed tickled to "show off" what little bit of English they knew. 3) "Family" and family time is very important to most people there - it seemed like more than here in the US - Americans laugh at "lazy Mexicans" and their siestas, but in reality, it seemed like everyone's real focus was relaxing and enjoying each other's company. 4) The bakeries are super - many of them will show off cakes and things that are more works of art than food.

In some ways, life in Mexico seems more "real" than the US. Here an afternoon with the kids revolves around Mcdonald's happy meals and a trip in an air conditioned car with headphones and/or the in-car movies on to pick up some bags of Walmart fluff.

There, it might be a half mile walk through twisty streets, drinking some corner stand fresh squeezed lemonade and munching on fresh pineapple slices, smelling the taco vendors grilling lamb, pork, beef, etc, etc... The market would have piles and piles of fresh fruit and vegetables just hauled in from the fields, and the guy with the fish stand might have anything from baskets of live crabs to a 6 foot shark still wet from the ocean.

I'd suggest traveling down there for a while and stay long enough to really get the feel of it. Scout around different cities and parts of the country. It ranges from desert to rain forest and from mountains to ocean front. It's amazing how varied it can be in just a couple hours of driving.

I love the USA, but I also believe most of the folks that complain about illegal immigration don't really have any idea of what Mexican culture truly is all about. If you spend a few weeks/months down there, you'll see what I mean.

The more Spanish you know the better off you'll be!


Just my rambling 4 cents worth,
Howard

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37 chief

01-02-2007 22:24:54




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
I don't think you can own land in mexico. A lot of people from the US thought they had a lease on some land in mixico below san diego. they built houses, and later on every thing was taken away from them because of a bad lease agreement. I would stay away from mexico. My brother retired and lived in mexico for a while. He liked it. He just rented year to year. He died there, and is buried in mexico. Stan

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Sid

01-02-2007 21:39:37




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
If you really want to know, what it is like to live down there, look up a copy of their constitution and read it. Then decide.



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Tex Aggie

01-02-2007 19:54:12




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
Just look for the story of the American hunters captured in northern mexico. that will make you think twice. oh and ask those that live near nuevo laredo.



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Charles McNelly III

01-02-2007 18:59:02




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
Don, I've lived in South Texas for most of my life and all I can say about that is "There's no place like home"! There isn't a safer place to live on Gods green earth then the good ol' USA.
Good Luck,
Charles



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Silver Pig

01-02-2007 21:23:20




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Charles McNelly III, 01-02-2007 18:59:02  
ANYPLACE south of San Antonio is MEXICO. I lived in the RGV (Mission/Sharyland) 26 years and got tired of being treated as a foreigner in my own country. Their 'culture' and my culture have absolutely nothing in common. Laredo is the a55hole of the United States, crime and drug smuggling out of control, one little colonia declared itself part of Mexico, bribery and graft rampant, gangs, everything bad is in abundance.
Starr, Hidalgo, Cameron, and Willacy counties used to, and probably still, have the highest unemployment, and the lowest per capita income in the United States.

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Will- Tx.-Mn.

01-02-2007 18:24:30




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-02-2007 18:18:08  
Hi Don,

I have a good friend who has family in Mexico,yes he's a Mexican,and he told me that if you own a ranch in Mexico there is no real-estate taxes on it,but if you have a house in the city it is taxed.

And plus we all know that the USA dollar is worth more then the peso

~Will



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Don L C

01-03-2007 08:05:18




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Will- Tx.-Mn., 01-02-2007 18:24:30  
Thank you all very much for the information..... .Don



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RN

01-03-2007 10:52:59




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 Re: Tractor colection Retire to Mexico in reply to Don L C, 01-03-2007 08:05:18  
Fred Reed article had a couple legal requirements for Americans not connected to maquiladora. First is 6 month tourist permit- cost about $350-400.00. Then residency application/permit- need to show about $1000.00 a month income, $1500.00 a month for couple. Land ownership restrictions- for many it is a 49% share of land with Mexican citizen, in case of dispute the Mexican citizen is given priority. Note that Mexican court system is not common law of England based but Code Naplean/Codex Civil- no presumption of innocence, bail not often given, police can act as magistrate for some things- traffic offenses get some tourists every year. No political activity allowed-definition can vary, deportation is penalty, land ownership share of deporty considered abandoned, reverts to Mexico/Mexican partner. Retirement on SS income possible, some American retirement areas considered good deals as compared to Miami. RN

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