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Marvin Gill

12-25-2006 19:23:24




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So, just how good was the traction with those old steel rear wheels of the 20"s? They look like they could go anywhere!




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coflyboy

12-26-2006 14:49:21




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 Re: tractor traction in reply to Marvin Gill, 12-25-2006 19:23:24  
Thanks for the picture. When I was on the farm during the late 30s early 40s, years 1 through 9, we had an F-12 with double rear wheels and double rows of lugs. The farm we were on was a muck farm in Michigan. The muck was very wet, badly drained, loam. My dad often got stuck in that water-soaked muck. He claimed that all you have to do when stuck with that tractor was just put wooden fence post under those lugs and you could 'walk right out'. However, as I remember the neighbor often came over and pulled him out with his dozer.

I drove that tractor pulling a wagon, loaded the wagon with muck using a shovel and unloaded the wagon in the yard when I was five years old. Today that would be child abuse.

Back then we all did what we could to survive.

Thanks again for the post.

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the Unforgiven

12-26-2006 08:21:05




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 Re: tractor traction in reply to Marvin Gill, 12-25-2006 19:23:24  
Antique tractors have steel wheels! But they look meaner than they are. If they spin they drop fast and it's over, if they do bite good on a heavy pull, you don't get any slippage and soon pull the engine down. I was moving some big dead tractors around the 'yard this year with an F20 on steel with extensions, and the biggest one stopped it as soon as I hit a little uphill grade, it was right on the edge of spinning and not having enough power to spin. I switched to another F20 on rubber, and it walked away with the same load. A friend sent me some pics of his D JD at the pulling track. It runs real strong, so he wanted to see what it would pull, and ended up with triple steel clamped together on the rear before it would hook up and pull the engine down.

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Hugh MacKay

12-26-2006 04:53:07




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 Re: tractor traction in reply to Marvin Gill, 12-25-2006 19:23:24  
Marvin: My dad bought a new W4 in 1942 with both steel and rims for rubber. I say that as he was not able to buy tires until after the war. For two winters after that he installed the steel for extracting wood from bush on frozen ground. By 1948 he bought a set of chains for winter use and the steel was never installed again.

Some of the first tractor tires were not great on traction, thus steel was an item. I doubt if there is a situation today where those steel wheels could match modern day tractor tires on any particular tractor. Even on frozen ground and ice, modern day ice chains or Canadian ring chains on rubber tires will make that steel look damn poor.

Plain and simple in 2006, all those steel wheels will do is give you a rough ride.

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Marvin Gill

12-26-2006 11:12:11




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 Re: tractor traction in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-26-2006 04:53:07  
Thanks guys, now I know they ain"t as good as they look. I guess if they were, we would be using them today :)



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old

12-25-2006 19:33:03




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 Re: tractor traction in reply to Marvin Gill, 12-25-2006 19:23:24  
In some places they work great but, in other places they dig in faster then you can hit the clutch. I have a JD-B on steel and in mud or gravel its helpless. We trid to drive it across a creek once and it made it till the rear wheels hit the gravel and in tno time it was down to the axles and had to be pulled out. They also dig good ditches, but not when you want them to LOL

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