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old fashioned f

12-24-2006 10:44:30




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Howdy,

I was looking through an old promotional book on 14T balers and it had some information on "one man" haymaking. It talked about a hay bale conveyor system that barns could be outfitted with. It would carry bales from the hay elevator into the loft and along a conveyor that was attached to the barn"s ridge pole. The bales would then be dispersed at intervals in the hay loft without having to be stacked. Are there any companies still making such a monster? Also, does anyone have any experience with New Holland bale wagons? I am particularly interested in the ones with single bale unloading as a feature. How exactly does that work on these machines. Thanks and God bless.

-- old fashioned farmer

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kyhayman

12-24-2006 12:13:34




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 Re: hay equipment questions in reply to old fashioned farmer, 12-24-2006 10:44:30  
We had a guy that had one of those systems around here. He used a kicker and kicker wagons, then put it up that way. It looked like a mess but he and one other guy put up enough alfalfa with it to feed 80 Jerseys year round.

As far as the NH bale wagons, I've got a 1034 with the single bale unload. It would drop them right into your vertical elevator. Id say it would work well in one of those set ups, if you have the right bale density (wire tied would help). I've used it once.

Problem for me is Im a ground pounder, theres not a barn on the farm with a loft. My plan was to run it off in an elevator to send it up to the top of the stacks in the sheds and rick it off the elevator. Yeah right. It seems when I need to get hay in the dry I need to get it in NOW, not piddle with stacking it by hand. Then when it rains the next day I could rick it in the barn (or at night when its cooler). Doing it single unload added an hour and 15 min on my barn time vs a 10 minute turn around to dump in the driveway and hand up later. I was losing at least a load or load and a half of turn around time every hour. In a drier climate that might be ok. Here, a lot of times I cant bale until 1-2 in the afternoon and have to quit by 7 at night due to too much humidity/dew. Out where they can bale at night it might be just the ticket.

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msb

12-24-2006 11:34:31




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 Re: hay equipment questions in reply to old fashioned farmer, 12-24-2006 10:44:30  
Deere did sell a few of those systems, but they didn't catch on.One reason was it took a system for each and every barn when an elevator could be moved from barn to barn and back then you could still find all the high schools boys you needed to bale hay and they would give you a full day's work to boot, all for a dollar an hour.
Another reason is if you ever had to feed hay that had been randomly dropped in a mow ,they you know how tough a job it was to wrestle bales over to the chute.

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JMS/MN

12-24-2006 12:11:43




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 Re: hay equipment questions in reply to msb, 12-24-2006 11:34:31  
My uncle bought the Deere system- had a 90 degree corner unit- outside conveyor went alongside the end of the barn, turned the bales as they went inside.



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JMS/MN

12-24-2006 11:33:09




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 Re: hay equipment questions in reply to old fashioned farmer, 12-24-2006 10:44:30  
Check Erskine Mfg., Erskine, MN. Also Loyal Barn Eq.(?), Loyal, WI. I made my own in-barn conveyor in the early 70s. Several sections bolted together, later replaced the outside elevator with a similar HM one, all driven by the 1 1/2 hp motor in the haymow. Outside conveyor was 1 inch pipe frame, inside one was 1 inch angle frame. Sliding tip-off sat on top of the inside conveyor, could be slid anywhere along the conveyor. Flat detachable chain ran through two sprockets on the tip-off, and I used a flat steel plate, quarter inch by four, about three feet long, hinged at the bottom, to tip off the bales. One plate on each side of the chain, raise one plate to lift the bale as it advances, tips it off to the other side. Could post a picture of it if you want it.

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toby

12-25-2006 06:12:51




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 Makes me laugh in reply to JMS/MN, 12-24-2006 11:33:09  
When I was 12 my parents had been in an accident and were disabled but did not know it. We put this system in an old barn with a high eve. Well they were not mechanical and here is where the problem started. They purchased a IH 27 baler with a bale kicker I do not know about the other two that were sold in America but ours was a piece of junk never would tie on the inside knotter and then the bale kicker would screw up. Now I am 54 and could time a 27 knotter with a blindfold and my hands tied behind my back. Things get worse you see Eastman wanted to try a knew twine you guessed yet it was plastic matter of fact 42 years later some is still laying out in the pasture lurking waiting for a chance to wrap around the bulls foot ( another story). Since the cheap feed system on the 27 would never put up a square bale and then the bale kicker would bend the bale a little more we had a mess before we got to the barn. When the bale reached the top of the elevator ready to fall over on the horizontal it would turn cross ways and this dumb 12 year old would climb up 50 feet and turn the bale. Now that I have had a good laugh the key is like everything else a good solid square bale. Also, our bottom elevator was too steep making the bales roll back instead of over some time. The bales look like a disaster but if a good bale they will be ok. I can say the last year we used it we put up 6600 bales with the old IH and then this recently hired Ag teacher bought a new 850 NH. The old 27, I gave it away.
Toby

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