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Royal Cutler

12-23-2006 13:18:21




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Can anyone answer the following;
Can a Farmall M pull a 3 bottom plow?
What is the difference between an M & Super M?
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Ken L.

12-24-2006 06:35:35




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 Re: Farmall M Power in reply to Royal Cutler, 12-23-2006 13:18:21  
In my area, West of Appleton Wi., you never saw anything bigger than a 2-14" plow behind an M or a 77 Oliver or an A JD. At times you could plow in fourth then when it hit the clay, you could have the tractor in low and wonder if you would make it without clutching. All depends on the type of ground that you have.



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john d

12-23-2006 22:16:28




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 Re: Farmall M Power in reply to Royal Cutler, 12-23-2006 13:18:21  
Depends on the soil, and depends on the condition of your M. The SM will have a slightly larger engine, and faster gear ratios in 3rd and 4th. They may or may not have the same rear tire size. To pull a 3-14 or larger plow with either, you'll need liquid ballast in the rear tires, and at least one, probably two, wheel weights on each rear wheel.

I live in central Indiana. I have the M and Super M that my dad and I farmed with. Both tractors had the over-bore high-compression sleeve/piston sets by M&W. We plowed for years with the M pulling a 3-14 IH plow and the SM pulling a 4-14 Moline plow. We ran the M most of the time in 3rd gear, the SM in 2nd.

Soils here are variable, but I never had that M anywhere that it wouldn't pull 3-14 in 2nd, even in sweetclover/alfalfa sod. Granted, with the kit that had been installed, and the rpms tweaked up to 2150, it wasn't a stock M. The rear end was upgraded with every 560 bearing that would fit.

The SM model has a faster gear ratio in 3rd and 4th than the M. 3rd gear on the SM is close to the same ratio as 4th on the M. 2nd gear is (I think) the same. One spring, the SM had to go to the shop for something, and I hitched the M to the 4-14 Moline plow. Dad told me how foolish it was to do that, until he saw that I was making round after round with it, mostly in 3rd gear. Again, 3rd on the M is slower than 3rd on the SM.

The M and I are both "retired" from farming now. It has a 3pt hitch on it now, and I have a 3-13 JD mounted plow that I use for a pretty large garden area. Six or seven years ago, the guy who farmed the heavy black-ground field across the road from me was plowing cornstalks with an 806 and a 5-16 IH semi-mount plow. When I'd finished my garden, I asked if he'd mind if the old M and I had a chance to do some serious work again. He grinned and said "Come on!" The M and I worked the rest of the morning in 2nd gear, plowing as deep as he was, and actually gaining about 20-30 feet per round on him.

I also still have one of the two 11' Kewannee tandem disks that we farmed with. The M would always handle it anywhere in 3rd gear, most places in 4th.

Take your M to a local implement dealer and pay a few $$ to have it put on a dyno. If the horsepower isn't up to stock or better, forget pulling a 3-14 plow. My M checked out at 52 hp; the SM at 54.

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davpal

12-23-2006 14:44:18




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 Re: Farmall M Power in reply to Royal Cutler, 12-23-2006 13:18:21  
Yes, as long as you are talking about a 3-12 or a 3-14 inch plow. Would it pull a 3-20 inch plow, no way.



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RN

12-23-2006 13:44:53




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 Re: Farmall M Power in reply to Royal Cutler, 12-23-2006 13:18:21  
M pulled 3 bottom in Iowa -corn and bean field. On old pasture and hay ground a 2 bottom worked a bit better. Super M had a bit bigger engine- about 262 instead of 248 inch?, usually live hydraulics. Some brake, PTO improvement, some had TA=Torque Amplifier- quick engage on the go low speed gear set. RN



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steveormary

12-23-2006 17:02:59




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 Re: Farmall M Power in reply to RN, 12-23-2006 13:44:53  
We pulled 3-14"s with an M. Mostly in 2nd gear. And pulled an 11" tandem,again mostly in 2nd gear.

steveormary



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