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Old 24 planer

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Lee Boland

12-22-2006 14:48:42




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I have this old 24" planer that's been through a fire and had all the babbit boiled out of the bearings. I realize this is not in the field of old tractors but wondered if anybody has an idea where I can learn about such an animal. It weighs about 3000 pounds and I can't find a manufacturer's name on it. I'm guessing it's vintage is early 1900's. What I would really like is to be able to find some old books or catalogs that might lead me somewhere--even about how to belt the various pulleys. I'm going to try to learn how to re-pour the babbit. I've already discovered that that's neither easy or low-cost. Again, any help would be appreciated.

Lee @ Elk Mound

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mbu

12-22-2006 15:55:30




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to Lee Boland, 12-22-2006 14:48:42  
Lee,

Are any patent numbers visible? If so, try typing them into the following link and see what comes up.



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Lee @ Elk Mound

12-23-2006 21:20:51




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to mbu, 12-22-2006 15:55:30  
Thanks for the tip. I'll look some more to see if any patent numbers appear--I didn't notice any so far.

Lee @ Elk Mound



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VaTom

12-22-2006 15:21:34




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to Lee Boland, 12-22-2006 14:48:42  
Hi Lee,

Chances are good you have a great machine. Half of my stationary woodworking machines are babbitt bearings, most of the rest were converted to ball-bearing. Heavy cast iron makes for nice machinery. FineWoodworking had a good article some years ago about pouring babbitts.

I'll try to find it for you. I haven't yet needed to repour any babbitts, only reduce shims to tighten them up.

Can't imagine your machine casting doesn't have the mfg. name. Not that it matters much.

You mention belts and pulleys. Was this a jackshaft driven machine? I recently arranged for a friend to buy one here. My 24" planer is early 50's and weighs 4500 lbs, ball-bearings.

The great part about pouring babbitts is if you screw it up, no problem. Just do it again. You won't hurt anything. I guess you know that fire might have affected the knives.

I'll get back to you. Can scan the article if you'd like.

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Lee at Elk Mound

12-23-2006 21:27:23




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to VaTom, 12-22-2006 15:21:34  
VaTom,

Thanks for the Fine Woodworking tip. I'll see if I can locate something there. Looks like re-pouring the babbit is the only way to go as pillow block bearings just won't fit the configuration. The machine probably was designed for jack shaft operation just judging from the pully set-up.

Lee @ Elk Mound



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VaTom

12-24-2006 05:13:58




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to Lee at Elk Mound, 12-23-2006 21:27:23  
You're welcome. Issue #38, Jan/Feb 1983. Yell if you need it scanned, 5 pages with pics. Taunton Press has a nice website, check there.

Your other choice, if you really want modern bearings, is to re-machine the frame. Not anything I'd do.

Yesterday I agreed to bring home a 16x60 metal lathe with babbitts (a lot older than I am), along with a belt drive babbitt drill press, and metal shaper, unknown bearings. Don't really know what I'm getting into, but I'll find out.

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HaySam

12-22-2006 15:43:19




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to VaTom, 12-22-2006 15:21:34  
Anyone know of a belt powerd planer for sale??



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Lee at Elk Mound

12-23-2006 21:29:17




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to HaySam, 12-22-2006 15:43:19  
HaySam,

This one may be for sale if I can't get myself to tackle the babbit bearing rebuilding.

Lee @ Elk Mound



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VaTom

12-22-2006 17:26:02




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 Re: Old 24 planer in reply to HaySam, 12-22-2006 15:43:19  
There was one advertised locally for a year or so. Guy in the next county south of here. If you want to come to central Virginia, I'll call him to find out where it is, likely still at his place.

Alternatively, very little isn't for sale. My friend Carl would probably part with his for the right price. 3000 lbs sounds about right. I hauled it for him. IIRC, it had the capacity for gang ripping or shaping.

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