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Plastic gas containers - any clever way to vent ?

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IHC Red

12-20-2006 10:45:31

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It takes a very long time (5-10 minutes) to empty one of these 5 or 6.5 gallon jugs. I've thought of drilling a small hole opposite the spout and sticking a bolt/plug in it when storing, but this doesn't seem ideal. I would also need to be very careful to keep any plastic shavings from falling.

They used to put a small cap on one end that you could take off when pouring. This worked great. I've also seen small snap on vents on some.

An alternative might be a different type of spout, but I haven't seen any around.

Why did they stop putting a second hole in these things ?

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dantheman

01-16-2008 20:47:18

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to vent ? in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

Hey i have search the internet looking to just by the vent valves with no luck yet . But i have thought about using brake bleeder valve and they have a little rubber cap . just a thought, if anyone finds those valves some where on the net PLEASE let me know

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Nick Rettler

12-21-2006 03:20:02

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I install a metal valve core adaptor for a steel rim opposite of the spout. Removed the valve core and covered it with a metal screw valve cap. The rubber seal did not last to long. Had to change it out with neoprene. Installed with a wire from the filler port. Works GREAT and does not leak if the can tips while transporting.

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IHC RED

12-21-2006 17:30:31

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to Nick Rettler, 12-21-2006 03:20:02

Sounds like a good solution... more permanent than a screw or bolt.

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aFORDable

12-20-2006 18:44:15

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I drilled a very small hole in the top side opposite the spout on a couple of mine and the problem was solved.

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las vegas

12-20-2006 18:27:36

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

what happens in vegas, stays in vegas. I can get my hands on everything that the EPA and the gov't says is ILLEGAL...and plus, it's better the ILLEGAL way!! LOL

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12-20-2006 18:03:02

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

Steel cans work the best and are worth the initial outlay.

Steel Can

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john cub owner

12-20-2006 20:46:19

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to mj, 12-20-2006 18:03:02

Those used jerry cans aren't vented either, the gurgle air back through the spout. You can get new ones for about the same price at cheaperthandirt.com

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Richard Scott

12-20-2006 17:25:41

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

These things are worse than worthless. First time I used mine, it had warmed up & when I loosened the cap, pressure from expansion forced about a cup of gas out the cap & all over my hands. Now I only put 3 gallons in it. What good is a 5 gallon can you can only put 3 gallons in? These pieces of junk are made by Blitz.

Shop around, call around, avoid the big box stores & you can still find good plastic cans, at least here in Oregon. Our local True Value Hdw store and a tractor dealer both carry a kind that is shaped like a stretched cube that's low enough that it won't tip over. Unfortunately, there is no brand on it. A boat shop might have good non-tipping ones, too.

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Russ from MN

12-20-2006 17:07:03

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

We have a couple of the new self-venting ones that work great, got them at Lowe's for a good price.

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Dave Sherburne NY

12-20-2006 15:33:06

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I'm to old and weak to hold that can up there, so I put a towel on the tractor to protect the paint, then I set the can up on the tractor and use one of those cheap plastic syphons to syphon it from the can to the fuel tank. The syphon thats used to fill those Kerosun heaters.

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RustyFarmall

12-20-2006 14:08:39

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

Just now reading through this thread for the second time, and realized the perfect solution. A valve stem from a tubeless truck rim. Comes with rubber gaskets, and a nut to tighten it down. You might need one of those long flexible grabber tools to hold the nut inside the can.

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las vegas

12-20-2006 13:24:56

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

Blame it on new environmental protective considerations. here in las vegas, however, it is MANDATORY to have VENTS IN EVERY CONTAINER OF GAS, because the 100 degree hot sun we have here will just BLOW AN UNVENTED TANK UP!! I don"t know what is the problem with you eastern boys!!!

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Ross

12-20-2006 12:47:33

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

Dumb thought of the day: could you epoxy a some kind of schrader valve like on a tire stem to the vent? leave the tire cap on and take the core out? Or leave the core in and depress when you want it to pour or to let off pressure in the container?
Just a thought
Ross

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Gerald J.

12-20-2006 13:05:43

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to Ross, 12-20-2006 12:47:33

Most plastic containers are hard to get any epoxy or glue to stick. But good hardware stores carry shrader valves with threads or nuts you can mount through the wall of the container.

Gerald J.

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hay

12-20-2006 12:26:26

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

i took a small screw and glued it into the back of a wood cabinet knob and then put that in the small hole i made. when i want to pour, simply remove the knob and the can is vented. even a small piece of duct tape over the hole will work as long as the tape is sticky.

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Mike M

12-20-2006 11:50:01

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I suspose these come from China or some other overseas company that just wants to screw with US ?

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jdemaris

12-20-2006 11:43:12

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I was told it was a California law that caused it. Once they required it in one state, it became a standard. Regardless of what particular group of idiots is to blame - I spill more gas now than I ever did with the older vented gas-cans. Here in New York the 5 gallon cans also have warning labels stating you can't use them to put gasoline into an automobile. What? I suppose the "right" way to do is it hire a trained, certified, licensed gas-installer? Maybe hired a paid gas-consultant first? What a bunch of crap! I put vents in mine with petcocks, but the spouts are still awful. I used to buy a 5 gallon can that worked for less than $10. Now? But a can and spend another $20 plus wasted time modifiying it? I suspect the same group of droolng crosseyed useless puke-brained idots that came up with the gas can regs. are of the same ilk as the low-gallon toliet people. If these same people are in charge of this nation's defense system - we're all screwed.

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GeneP

12-20-2006 12:38:28

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to jdemaris, 12-20-2006 11:43:12

I was on the board of directors of our frat house when we remodeled the bathrooms and were forced to use the low volume toilets. results, the kids were constantly plugging the damned things up and almost always had to flush twice using more water than the old ones.

Our country is being run by idiots!!!

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Hal/WA

12-20-2006 18:07:27

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to GeneP, 12-20-2006 12:38:28

And that is why all the toilets in my 10 year old house are at least 25 years old. I got them from a salvage yard and cleaned them up to look new. I got tired of using the plunger and have not used it once since I recycled the old toilets. I put new valves in them when I installed them, so I think I am good to go (pun intended!) for awhile. And I think I use less water getting the things to flush everything down in one flush, rather than flushing several times if there were any solids in the bowl.

This country has way too many rules and laws. And I agree that many making the laws are total idiots.

Somehow I think the same people made the rules about what deer may be hunted and which have to be left alone. Consequently we have about 10 times as many whitetails around as there were in the same area 40 years ago. They eat anything I plant in the yard and are constantly being hit on the roads. It is just stupid! But will the "officials" allow doe hunting? No way. GRRRR

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CLW

12-20-2006 12:28:31

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to jdemaris, 12-20-2006 11:43:12

jdemaris, please tell us how you really feel. lol

Good post

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Mike M

12-20-2006 11:52:58

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to jdemaris, 12-20-2006 11:43:12

Yep,those toilets WASTE more water than anything ! The one at work you have to flush up to 3 or 4 times !

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Red Dave

12-20-2006 11:22:20

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I drilled a hole opposite the spout and stick a big self-tapping screw in it.

The half-witted moron that designed the self venting spout for that thing ought to be strung up by the short hairs. It worked exactly 3 times before it got so tight it wouldn't open.

Only a governmental, bureaucratic cretin would think that forcing people to home modify a gas can, just to make it useable, could help the environment.

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RustyFarmall

12-20-2006 11:14:15

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I think you can blame that one on the EPA. The thought was that gasoline fumes were escaping into the atmosphere through the vent hole. Of course, without the vent hole, the gas gurgles and gulps and splashes out onto you, the tractor, and the ground, and guess where all of those vapors go? There has to be some way to provide a closeable vent. Scrounge through the plumbing dept. down at homer depot, I bet you might find something that can be adapted.

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Mattlt

12-20-2006 11:06:23

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Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to ven in reply to IHC Red, 12-20-2006 10:45:31

I've got a couple small ones that don't have a vent. I think they've got some sort of a vent tube inside the pour spout - not sure without looking.

Maybe drill a hole opposite the spout that you could plug with something like a golf tee? Then it should never fall into the gas can.

I suppose the lack of a vent spout is emission related. They don't want the "fumes" escaping from the gas can. That's why they also come with a cap of some sort for the spout.

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