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Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors

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msb

12-19-2006 14:04:17




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Anyone played with the idea or have used it to run old gasoline tractors?Think it was University of Tennessee that did some trials years back.Never hear of it anymore.




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Hugh MacKay

12-20-2006 16:46:33




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to msb, 12-19-2006 14:04:17  
MSB: I have photos here of a system that was built in the Annapolis Valley of Nova Scotia in the late 1970s. This gasifier was designed to burn whole round bales of straw. The tower the bales were placed in was round and large enough in diameter to take the bales, and high enough for three bales at one time. The fire was a controlled burn in the bottom of the chamber, and the gasses coming off were used to fuel a propane grain dryer and other propane heating devices on the farm. This was a continuous burn chamber, whereby one kept adding bales at the top. It had to be shut down weekly for cleaning, usually a wheelbarrow load.

This system has since been dismantled as the designer and operator has since passed away. One of the problems they encountered was control of the fire. I talked just last year with the designer's son and he feels some of the new computer controls now out could have solved their problems. They almost had melt down a couple of times.

The system also worked much better in the fall when round bales had not yet lost the round shape. Once bales had been stacked and no longer having a good round shape, it caused bridging problems as well as up draft problems. We concluded that just maybe some of the more dense bales of today may work better.

There is a company in Nova Scotia, currently manufacturing and marketing a similar upright burner for round bales. I don't believe he is designing this as a gasifier but rather a heat source for hot water furnace.

I have researched this quite a bit, basically interested in fuel for stationary applications. I've come to the conclusion that pelleting the fuel supply will be far more efficient than trying to burn whole round bales.

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Bill in Colo

12-19-2006 18:49:49




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to msb, 12-19-2006 14:04:17  
The FFA kids at North Park high school in Walden,Co have a wood gasification systen driving a 4.8 liter v6 gm motor tied to 30 Kw generator which provides heat and electricity to their greenhouse.



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jdemaris

12-19-2006 16:14:23




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to msb, 12-19-2006 14:04:17  
Like Tractor Sam replied, it was commonly done in Europe during WWII. There are plans available all over the place. Somebody from the Mother Earth News built the system to run their electric generator that has a Continental flathead gas engine. I want to do it with a Model AA truck I have - some time. From what I've read - it works best with a long-stroke, low-compression gas engine - which makes tractor engines perfect.

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tractorsam

12-19-2006 15:46:42




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to msb, 12-19-2006 14:04:17  
I think it was most often used during the second world war. I have a book on it that details systems sold during WW2 in Australia to be added to cars. Kind of a complicated system and pretty heavy to drag all over the land but doesn"t require any sophisticated technology. They can run on coal and wood but it appears that charcoal was the preferred fuel. I haven"t done anything with it yet but the book gives enough information to build your own apparatus and at some point I would like to give it a whirl. Most of them had the system mounted directly to the tractor but I think it might be better if you had a production system and were able to bottle it and use it like LPG. Lots of ideas, too little time. tractorsam

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farmer101IL

12-19-2006 15:46:13




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to msb, 12-19-2006 14:04:17  
Haven't tried wood. I'm working on alcohol right now. I'm going to run it in my 860 ford and a bug.



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tractorsam

12-19-2006 15:48:08




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to farmer101IL, 12-19-2006 15:46:13  
Are you actually making the alcohol or are you just attempting to run the tractors on it? tractorsam



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farmer101IL

12-19-2006 19:17:33




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to tractorsam, 12-19-2006 15:48:08  
Been wanting to do this for years. Things are lining up to do it. Read alot about the stills. The best and easiest, down to earth still is the Mother Earth Still. Quite simple and functional. Old type vehicles are the easiest. Basically enlarge the jets in the carb 30 to 50%. I've gathered some parts for the still. Just going to build a small one to start with, get a few gallons, get a feel for it. I bought a corn stove this year. I will never be without one again. I definitely am going to heat the still with corn. Almost finished working on my tractor.
then i can start on that project.

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tractorsam

12-20-2006 04:29:12




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to farmer101IL, 12-19-2006 19:17:33  
Where might a person find a set of plans for one of these stills? What are you using as a raw product to convert to alcohol? Many thanks, tractorsam



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farmer101IL

12-20-2006 07:03:39




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to tractorsam, 12-20-2006 04:29:12  
Link

tractorsam try this



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farmer101IL

12-20-2006 06:56:52




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 Re: Anyone use wood gasification fueled tractors in reply to tractorsam, 12-20-2006 04:29:12  
Corn my friend. Only way to go . I'm growing 5 acres this year. try this web site >Link
Very>Link interesting site. there should be a link for the Mother Earth News article, its from the 80s
Any other questions, my email is thefarm88@verizon.net
Take care



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