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Red Pete

12-18-2006 17:55:33




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I heard a rumor of a possible merger between the UP and the BNSF. Anyone else hear anything?




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JOHN HARMON

12-19-2006 10:57:35




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
The BNSF goes by within Eye Sight of my House and I note an increased useage of Norfolk/Southern Engines being used as power. I figured that some time back they had signed a Resiprosity Agreement to some effect. Would this be possible?John



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Mark

12-19-2006 14:46:38




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to JOHN HARMON, 12-19-2006 10:57:35  
railroads 'lease' surplus power to each other. CSX has every named railroad's power on their property anymore. They sorta have a pool of locomotives available for lease at any given time. When business is up...they draw power from the pool, when business is down....they make engines available to the pool. It's all about making money...a locomotive is to never sit idle..or they are losing money. One thing they don't ever want to do, is pay to have their locomotives repaired on a foreign railroad....that is where they 'stick' each other with exorbitant costs.

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dave2355

12-19-2006 06:03:49




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
No have"nt heard that one. I think anti-trust
concerns will hold off any major mergers between
the big 6. I can possibly see KCS being bought up. This is for the UP conductor.
I hope NS never mergers with the UP, that would just ruin everything. Back in the 30's-40's-50's
the UP just wished they had the locomotives the
N&W built in their own shops.



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Tom671

12-19-2006 05:02:36




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
Hey railhead

Our BNSF business is so good, we have to use your tracks to get the merchandise to its destination, and NOT because our track are bad.



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Tom671

12-19-2006 04:56:10




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
Easy there railhead



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djm75

12-19-2006 00:42:40




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
it wont happen when the bn and cn tried to merge the goverment put a stop to it and the up and cp were going to merge and that wouldn"t have happened either they wont let it they would just get too big as for the dme I work for the sister company ice.



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paul

12-19-2006 21:52:29




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to djm75, 12-19-2006 00:42:40  
When did the ICE join up (or however they are teamed up)? Last year or 2 I started seeing ICE locos on the line, missed on hearing about that.

My BiL works for BNSF currently, did work for the DME for a year testing engineers. I actually assembled the test books. Was kinda cool.

--->Paul



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djm75

12-27-2006 04:16:23




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to paul, 12-19-2006 21:52:29  
The DME bought the ICE over 4 years ago. It was the IMRL and the CP and SOO and Milwaukee.



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paul

12-18-2006 23:33:12




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
Nope, not heard that one.

All we hear here is about the DME expansion, and what knotheads the people of Rochester are.

--->Paul



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JMS/MN

12-19-2006 07:18:37




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to paul, 12-18-2006 23:33:12  
If they worry about the 'hazardous' freight going through town on the rails..... ..maybe they think nothing hazardous goes down the fancy new road running right through the middle of town and the clinic area.



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paul

12-19-2006 10:12:38




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to JMS/MN, 12-19-2006 07:18:37  
Well, a hospital has it's own set of hazards. Lot of 'things' inside those walls too.

Anywhere you put a rr, it will go past somebody's house. So if they say 'not in my back yard' then why is it good enough to put in some ele's back yard?

Here in my town, a real estate agency made a housing development out of an old gravel pit. The water in the bottom is now a 'lake' as an added feature. The DME track runs up/down hill on a small cliff (because of the gravel removal) right in the back of one line of the lots. Can't believe anyone would want to buy _those_ properties. The brakes & engine noise alone would be bad enough for the whole development, but that row nestled under the tracks..... Yikes.

Also expanding the small airport here, they moved a road. The city council is already putting in lots - on the road that goes under the runway path.

Is anyone home????? ? :)

--->Paul

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railhead

12-18-2006 18:24:01




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
Not heard that scuttlebutt. Where did you hear that 5hit? I am a Union Pacific MOW foreman. If that ever happens, I will quit railroading. I AM Union Pacific.

I Despise BN.



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Ol' Santa Fe guy

12-18-2006 18:36:18




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to railhead, 12-18-2006 18:24:01  
Railhead, what did BN do to you? Run their company a little better than UP, perhaps? If this rumor did come to pass, I'll bet you'd rethink your comment about quitting railroading, unless you're already eligible for retirement. You couldn't make near the money you are now by driving a dump truck or swinging a hammer..... .



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railhead

12-18-2006 19:13:24




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Ol' Santa Fe guy, 12-18-2006 18:36:18  
Ol SF guy,
I could get into a pi55ing match with you but I wont. Look at the stock prices. Who is running a better company? Like I said, I am a UP guy to the end. No I don't have enough time to retire but I have enough time to hold on any type gang I wish. I could make more money on a online gang just f'ing off every day but I choose to work on a gang where I can make a difference and improve my railroad every day. I work to support myself and family but I work for pride as well. I love my company. Every time I see that red white and blue logo pass on a Motor, I get chill bumps.

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coflyboy

12-19-2006 15:17:37




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to railhead, 12-18-2006 19:13:24  
Congradulations for taking pride in your work and your company!!



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Brett in KS

12-18-2006 18:12:52




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Red Pete, 12-18-2006 17:55:33  
Nope, I haven't heard anything. If UP & BNSF merge that would pretty much create a monopoly west of the Mississippi river. I don't think that would be good for anybody.

Take 'er easy,
Brett



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Mark

12-19-2006 07:49:07




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 Re: OT-railroad merger in reply to Brett in KS, 12-18-2006 18:12:52  
I find this thread amusing.

I worked 27 years as an engineer for CSX out of Russell, Ky.....on what was originally the Chesapeake and Ohio, later the Chessie System and when they merged with the alligators, became CSX.

Guess who is CEO of CSX now? The former head of NS!

Mergers suck and everybody below the upper crust suffers. There will be an east-west merger between the BNSF or UP with either NS or CSX....that talk has gone on for some time now. These four companies want lines stretching coast to coast....and they'll eventually get them.

So far as getting goose bumps every time you see a company logo go by..... you need to take some time off for cryin out loud! I got nauseated every time the phone rang and I heard the crew callers voice.

I gave those thankless illegitimates the 27 best years of my life and for what? A paycheck and nothing else...but grief. I dreaded being called out on Monday mornings.....I knew the slow orders would be on from one end of the road to the other, because the track inspector would spend all day Sunday high railing 'looking' for something to do the next week. That moron invented sh1t to do, just to keep his gang working and slowing down every train in the process. I came to hate him.

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