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Animal

12-07-2006 10:46:28

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Its in the single digets here today, fired up my wood stove, it brought my 30x60 shop up to 23 degrees, I hate it when its too cold to work, I was wondering what you all use for heat and how you like it. My stove sits outside kind of a barrel in a barrel and the air moves around it and back in the shop. I did it because of insurance reasons and I shoot alot of paint in the winter, but I can not bank it enough to maintain heat overnight. I have been thinking about a corn stove for next winter, I have one in the house and really like it. So.... what do you fellas think, I am open for input.

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Jim WJ

12-07-2006 16:18:19

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

I believe the best thing a person can do
is put some money in insulation. It pays for
itself very fast sometimes even in the first
year. About 10 years ago I had Morton buildings
put up one of there farm shops here. Its very well
insulated and costs little to heat. This building
is 42 x 60 and 16 feet tall and heated all winter long at about 58deg. It costs me about
1100.00 dollars and that is no.2 fuel at 2.55/gal.
[just filled up] This building is located in
north east Minnesota. Remember insulate well you will get your money back, and sometimes real fast.

Jim JW

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Mn Dave

12-07-2006 16:17:26

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

I have a 40x50 ft steel shop with 16 ft. sidewalls, well insulated. Have hanging, vented LP furnace which keeps it above freezing all the time, and when I'm working in there I fire up the old wood burner and gets to 50 degrees real fast, it also has 2 ceiling fans. I hate cutting wood but that way I can keep up with the dead elms around the grove and fence lines. Have had the shop for 23 yrs and wouldn't be without it.

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

12-07-2006 15:10:15

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

Whatever you use make sure the burner is the proper distance off the floor. Not sure but its 36 inches in Michigan. Gas vapors hang around on the floor.

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two mile

12-07-2006 14:41:34

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

Our shop is 58 X 40. Well insulated. We have two five panel propane radiant heaters. We can keep it 45 to 50 with one or two panels lit. (Depends on outside temp and winds) When we're working, we run a 400,000 propane salamander. Brings it up over 60 in just a few minutes. Then light a few more panels on the heaters and keeps it up to temp all day without any noise. We have done this for several years, use 200-300 gal. propane each winter. I use more than that every day I dry corn. Very happy with this system.

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Roy Suomi

12-07-2006 13:47:24

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

I've got a 32 X 40 pole barn , side walls and ceilings pink glass insulation ,Heat with a Riteway wood stove..This keeps it tolerable , then have a fuel oil furnace for that quick warm-up for shirt sleeves workshop..Works for me...

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kyhayman

12-07-2006 13:47:05

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

I used to use wood, not any more. Now I use propane in the shop. Does a great job and if I paid myself a nickle an hour its cheaper than wood. I did learn somthing though, when I built my studio (which is an enclosed shed of a barn. Insulated to R13 walls and ceiling. 22x24. In it I used a 220v forced air electric heater 7500 watts (out of Grainger catalog). Its awesome, clean, and economical. I never run it over 50% except to warm up, even down in the single digets and that was for a shoot for Maxim (if you read it, you know that they werent in fur coats). None of the models complained about the temps and I was wearing sweats and a tshirt.

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Blue guy

12-07-2006 16:06:30

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Re: Shop heat in reply to kyhayman, 12-07-2006 13:47:05

A shoot for maxim? I'm beginning to hate you! ;^)

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kyhayman

12-07-2006 16:20:10

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Blue guy , 12-07-2006 16:06:30

LOL, I understand!!

Of course you have visited my galleries, :-). 4 sets sold to them and counting. It had promised to be agood fall, and I also got a bid on a calander, featuring some of my top models, in (coughs, lol) fashion, with some of Ramble Ridge Farms diry cows. Got to shoot that in the spring though after I get this undercarriage healed.

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Allan In NE

12-07-2006 15:25:22

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Re: Shop heat in reply to kyhayman, 12-07-2006 13:47:05

Yep,

Thats' what I use too. Runs off 220 and I swear I've never seen it on the electric bill.

Allan

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Animal

12-07-2006 15:35:50

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Allan In NE, 12-07-2006 15:25:22

Is this a stationary unit or can it be moved, and how expensive are they?

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kyhayman

12-07-2006 15:46:18

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 15:35:50

Its a ceiling mount on a bracket, like a baby version of those modine gas greenhouse heaters. Cost I think with my farm bureau discount was 279.00. HVAC shop showed them to me, and sent me direct to Grainger (where he gets his to resell at 100 more).

My bill (since my studio is on its own meter and I only heat when I shoot) was $17.00 last Feb. I had 11 - 3 hour shoots there, and kept it in the 80s for the shoots. Avg outside was in the low 20s since I shoot after dark.

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Allan In NE

12-07-2006 15:55:49

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Re: Shop heat in reply to kyhayman, 12-07-2006 15:46:18

Mine is about the same thing.

Had it custom built with two elements and the blower out of a furnace. Cost me $508 to have it built, hung and wired.

I leave the thermostat on 70 year around.

Allan

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Dave Sherburne NY

12-07-2006 13:26:34

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

My shop is 18X44 Walls are well insulated and plywood on the inside. ceiling is 1" thick foam insulation the kind with aluminum foil on the outside. I replaced the furnace in the doublewide and moved the old one two the garage. Its oil, and
heats the shop easily.

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Michael Soldan

12-07-2006 12:41:12

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

Many years ago when I built my shop at home my parents had their furnace replaced at the farm. The old unit was a huge wood and coal furnace. I decided that it would work in my shop so I brought it home, bolted it together and got pipes etc. I fired it up and after a while it was quite warm so I opened a window , then after a while I opened the enterance door and yet later opened one of the twp bay doors. That thing will heat you out. I have learned to damper and control it and I like it. If I light it around 7:30 I can work all day in my shirtsleeves by 8:30. If I have a project going I can put two or three big blocks of wood in and it will still be going in the morning. My shop at home is 24x30 double bay. I got heat!!

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TomR Ont

12-07-2006 11:18:36

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

Can you ask your insurance agent,
what is acceptable and the least expensive insurance for each type of heating unit.

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JDB

12-07-2006 11:10:39

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

40K BTU fan forced portable propane and a 1500 watt bathroom heater to kind of keep things from cooling off too fast. Shop is only 25x50 cinder block. Heats real well with R19 in the ceiling.
What if you partitioned off the area you want heat with a heavy curtain or something?

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Lincoln

12-07-2006 11:06:10

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

I have a Reznor hanging furnace which runs on propane. It works very well. Around here The LB White hanging furnaces that they put in hog confinements can be found for a reasonale price.

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geo in MI

12-07-2006 10:59:18

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

How about a partition or curtain for those really cold days? How's the insulation? Do you have a carbon monoxide monitor? Just a thought.

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old

12-07-2006 10:53:12

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

Find a mobile home propane furnace and set it up inside your shop. No insurance problems plus you can turn it on only when you need it.

Hobby farm

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IH2444

12-07-2006 10:49:11

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Re: Shop heat in reply to Animal, 12-07-2006 10:46:28

If you have a good source of used oil, I would consider a used oil stove.

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bryan in iowa

12-07-2006 10:57:10

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Re: Shop heat in reply to IH2444, 12-07-2006 10:49:11

i have used oil furnace in my shop.All i heat with , works great . But 55 gals of oil per week, so you need good supply of oil. It's getting harder to find these days. Many places are paying .45 - .95 cents gal for used oil .

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steve in in

12-07-2006 13:00:49

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Re: Shop heat in reply to bryan in iowa , 12-07-2006 10:57:10

This may seem stupid, but can you burn synthetic in those?

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jack-iowa

12-07-2006 11:07:43

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Re: Shop heat in reply to bryan in iowa , 12-07-2006 10:57:10

where in iowa are you?I have about 20-50 gals you can have.bring a container.....

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bryan in iowa

12-07-2006 11:10:33

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Re: Shop heat in reply to jack-iowa, 12-07-2006 11:07:43

i'm in Marion ,i have few guys i get oil from ,,some i drop off a 55 gal barrel other just keep few 2 1/2 or 5 gal jugs

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jack-iowa

12-07-2006 11:24:57

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Re: Shop heat in reply to bryan in iowa , 12-07-2006 11:10:33

waterloo ,well if intereted you can have it.

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rustyj14

12-08-2006 19:15:56

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Re: Shop heat in reply to jack-iowa, 12-07-2006 11:24:57

I saved all of my drain oil for a friend. He brought out a 55 gallon drum, with the ends still in it. It looked kinda rusty, but he said it would be alright. When it was full, i called him to come get it, but he didn't come until the next summer. He brought some 5 gallon jugs, and a hand pump. I dropped the hose inside, but the drum didn't sound right! Found out some water had got in it, and rusted a small hole in it, and the oil all leaked out. It went under my small shed, is why i never saw it leaking! Guess the groundhogs under there got an oil bath! i'd of never thought it could rust thru with the oil in it, but it can! The oil will gather in a small ball, and set on the bottom, merrily rusting away!

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