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Going off the deep end here?

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Bill46

11-22-2006 08:48:09




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I may be biting off more than I can chew here...but have to ask if anyone has ever tried this.
I have on old 54 IH pickup on the farm at home. Half ton with a 6 cyl in it. Hasen't run in years.
The body is in good shape, no rust to speak of and the thing is not all beat up.
Last week I bought my brother in laws wrecked 96 Dodge 3/4 ton with a 5.9 diesel. I got it just for parts as he slid into a milk truck on a slick road. Insurance was going to give him nothing for it. And I have a good 96 extended cab I really like and want to keep going.
The cab and the front of the bed is a mess, but....
Here is where maybe common sense goes away.
I have been looking at the Dodge and thinking, if I remove the cab, front end and bed, I bet I can put the IH cab,bed and front end on the Dodge frame. I would have to insure I used the Dodge dash parts as the gage panel would have to be set in the IH dash. Along with other Dodge parts.
Then, I would have a 54 HI with a 3/4 ton frame, a 5.9 diesel with a 5 speed transmission.
What do ya think...have I lost all sense of reality? Your input is greatly accepted. I just think it would make a fun pickup.

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thejdman01

11-23-2006 06:26:16




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
Make sure the frame etc is good on the dodge. Also intercoolers, radiators etc depending on the crash are e xpensive, maybe why salvaging it was out of ? for the insurance company



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Don LC

11-22-2006 20:02:45




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
Its a great idea.....I wish I had the IH truck.....Iwould simply install a 302 Ford with auto tranny .....Mustang front end with power steering ....add some air ,a deluxe paint job and enjoy.....

NAAAAA sell it to me.....

If you do this do it right,,,,,no short cuts allowed....ya hear..... ..good luck Don

How about some pictures,befor ,during and after.....



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ShepFL

11-22-2006 15:11:40




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
While not having done this I have stuffed a Buick 231 (V-6) into a 1972 Triumph Spitfire. That was a fun project but my girlfriend hated the car called it my Black B*tch. Finally sold the car for parts. Got a nice 231 bored .060 over with new heads just sitting in the shop wasting away now.

I want to do a similar thing as you describe with an older Chevy pickup (49-53 5 window model). Thinking a guy could set the old body onto a K-5 Blazer hooked to a 327 or small block 400 tied to a Muncie 4 speed. Paint it Oliver Green. Then find me an Oliver Super 77 or Super 88 fix it up as a competitive puller.

Want to run down the road as the "Osceola Outlaw" going to tractor pulls or tractor shows.

Need to get me another job as I don't think Santa will be bringing this to me this yr. :)

Good Luck!

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dr.sportster

11-22-2006 14:38:00




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
A few weeks back there was a link posted on tool talk where a guy had put a turbine in a tractor.He ripped all the miles of wiring off it and started over.It ran when he got done and it didnt take real long either.I wish I knew the site.If you see this youll say anythings possible.Remember a few years back the El Camino and Camaros on big FWD frames built by teenagers.Im sure a welder and some power tools would help but you might have that already.Go for it. Work on it twenty minutes minimum a day youll get it done before you know it.Doing a restoration is hard because you have so many rules to follow but in something custom there are no rules.Any way around a problem that works [and is safe]is fine.

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Tim...Ok

11-22-2006 10:33:48




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
Bill, I put a 5.9 cummins in a 56 gmc a few years ago,actually i did the swap twice..first I did like your talking and I put an `80 chevy cab and bed on the dodge 3/4 ton frame,the clutch was really the hardest thing cause the dodge is semi-hydraulic,I finished it like this and drove it for a year or so..then I got bored with it and bought the 56 GMC,on that swap I put the motor in the GMC frame,that worked out ok too.. I sold it before I finished it the second time..

Keep in mind,all you really need to make one of these run is power to the fuel shutoff solenoid,which you could rig up manually,like a choke cable and then you need your power to the starter,thats all you really need to make it run..good luck and let us know how it goes..

Tim

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Bill46

11-22-2006 09:34:47




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
I have a decent place to work on it and it does not get all that cold here in winter...sure gets hot in the summer though.
I have lots of things I could be doing...but then doesn't everyone.
I figure a few evenings a week until I retire in a year and a half.
I know it's a lot of work...but what the heck...gotta try and keep up with Allan.....just wish I was as smart as he is on a lot of things.

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85_Ranger4x4

11-22-2006 09:32:54




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
Sounds fun, but watch the wiring. I would look into getting good electrical manuals (not just haynes or chiltons) for both trucks, and going from there. The cab and body stuff are not that big of a deal, but the wiring can make or break you.



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old

11-22-2006 09:28:02




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
Sounds like something fun to do but you will need to have a place and time to do it in. I would say it will take a year to do unless you can work on it day in day out. All new mounts for the cap, and all body parts. Plus frame may be to long or to short and wheel wells etc may not match up and then you will have fun getting all that correct. But it can be done

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jeremy in NE

11-22-2006 08:56:10




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 Re: Going off the deep end here? in reply to Bill46, 11-22-2006 08:48:09  
That sounds like a neat project. Have to make sure wheel base is close to the same so wheels fit in openings. I would imagine that the frame rails would be at different widths, but a little imagination and a lot of time can overcome any dilema. Good luck and if you do it please post a picture when done.



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