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OT--Changing tires manually

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Brian in NY

11-17-2006 06:43:39




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Looking to swap some tires, on 14" rims.
These are car tires.

Wondering if I should be able to do this
with some prybars and a bit of grunting.




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bgoathill

11-18-2006 05:12:26




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
Tires are easy to mount and dismount. The bad part is trying to get the bead to seat when you go to blow them back up, sometimes a tubeless tire won't go. At work we fix all of our truck tires. We made an air tank with a big ball valve that blasts alot of air into the tire as we are airing it up. I am in the process of making one for myself out of a small propane tank, I have just been putting tubes in them but that starts to get expensive, but still cheaper than taking it to a tire shop.

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Doug in Illinois

11-17-2006 19:34:21




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
Used to change the majority of my own tires, but in the summer my mail route, lawn care business, and haying doesn't leave enough time to mess around long with tires. Besides, sometimes the cold one at the tavern after I dropped off several tires(for my route car) at the tire shop I use sure tastes good. Anyhow, I should mention a couple more things to make the job easier. One is RuGlide or another good bead lubricant/sealer. Another thing that should be mentioned is safety, especially when seating the beads. Yes, I am guilty of blasting high pressure air to seat stubborn tires or doing the "ether" trick. If you don't know, don't ask, too much will blow too hard or burn too slow. A bead blaster tank is nice, but cashy. I have done more car/truck/tractor tires than I like to admit, as I worked at a truck stop in the evenings when they were still full service. The manual changers from Harbor Freight / Northern Hydraulics, etc, work fairly well if mounted solidly to the floor. Also, re: safety, invest in a clip on chuck that you can clip on the valve stem and walk away from, especially if you ever have to do a (now rare) split rim. Best to have those in a tire cage, if no cage consider what is nearby that could be injured, damaged, or killed if the ring blows. If using clip on chuck, set the outlet regulator at not over the suggested maximun inflation pressure plus 10 percent. Don't want to scare you, but safety is first.

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ktheo1

11-17-2006 12:18:12




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
Handy man jack works well but I use it on the tire and under the drawbar of the tractor,don't have to worry about picking it off the ground.

When the tire store started charging $15.00,I decided it was time to change my own.



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old bones

11-17-2006 17:36:33




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to ktheo1, 11-17-2006 12:18:12  
never thought of doing it that way. boing to try it tomorrow in a 11L15 wagon tire. i usually use a 5ft heavy pinch bar and a steel fence post driver (like a slide hammer) for the beads. thanks
old bones



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RAB

11-17-2006 11:42:26




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
The only real problem is balancing the wheels if they are to be used at road speeds.
Regards, RAB



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daves 40 acre

11-17-2006 11:01:54




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
Go for it I change all my tires by hand I even made a slide hammer out of some pipe and old chisel and a old torsion bar, works but need to revamp alittle I have even used a mual and a tire chisel not that bad if the tire isn't glued fast to the rim and it isn't a performance tire.



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old

11-17-2006 08:20:55




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
If you have the RIGHT tools its not all that hard to do. I've been doing them for 30 plus years but I also have the right tools for it. You need #1 a tire hammer for brakeing the beads, 2 a pair of long tire bars. 3 some soapy water and then from there its just a lot of work. You can also buy a beta cheater which makes brakeing them down a lot easier but thye cost about $150 or so.

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Rauville

11-17-2006 07:25:53




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
It will be a learning experience...but you'll get'r done.
Actually, a good tire shop is the cheapest and best way. I had a slow leak from a nail in a tire this week, and it was alot easier to drive in and have them take it off and fix it. Ten minutes and $8.00 later, I was on my way.



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Coloken

11-17-2006 07:19:10




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
It can be dome, but I don't think you want to try it . A impact bar and a big man can do it. The tire changer from Harbor Freight is light, but it does work, and is cheap. A lot better if you tie it to the floor.



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RustyFarmall

11-17-2006 07:10:17




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
You can do it, but unless you have the pry bars made specifically for that job you will be doing a lot of muttering under your breathe, plus run the risk of hurting yourself, and there is a strong chance that you will damage the tires. The proper tools will cost you a bit, too much for a one time use. If you will be doing this again sometime, the tools are a good investment.



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dhermesc

11-17-2006 06:54:42




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Brian in NY, 11-17-2006 06:43:39  
Do it all the time. Breaking the bead will be hardest part. I usually pull the valve core and put a handiman jack on the tire near the bead and start lifting my truck, the bead usually pops loose before I get it in the air. Flip it over and do the other side.



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RustyFarmall

11-17-2006 08:29:14




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to dhermesc, 11-17-2006 06:54:42  
The handyman jack trick does work, but I've found that you need to use the front of the truck because it's heavier. The last time I tried using the rear of a truck I had both rear tires completely off the floor and the tire bead still did not break loose. The drawbar on my H loader tractor works very well.



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dhermesc

11-17-2006 08:34:35




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to RustyFarmall, 11-17-2006 08:29:14  
The front of my pickup is heavier, but the bumper is lighter.



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Bill WI

11-17-2006 07:52:35




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to dhermesc, 11-17-2006 06:54:42  
Damn, wish I'd thougth of that. I'm going to try a cleat on barn post with it.



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iowa_tire_guy

11-17-2006 08:57:39




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Bill WI , 11-17-2006 07:52:35  
Back on the farm when I was a kid my Dad used a bumper jack and leaf springs from a Model A car to change tires. And that is how I learned to change tires.



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Glenn F.

11-17-2006 09:26:18




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 11-17-2006 08:57:39  
I have one tire spoon, but my other tire tools are old broken leaf springs from a '72 Chev pickup I had.

Glenn



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RustyFarmall

11-17-2006 09:36:16




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 Re: OT--Changing tires manually in reply to Glenn F., 11-17-2006 09:26:18  
Leaf springs can be turned into lots of handy tools. Wish I had saved some of those broken springs that I replaced several years ago.



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