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Animal

11-06-2006 16:26:21

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Can someone please tell me why 4 brake lining and 2 dozen rivits, cost more than new pads and shoes for my pick up?

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davpal

11-09-2006 10:30:51

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

I bought new brake discs for my White at the Agco dealer last year. They were $52 dollars each and I needed 6 of them and 2 seals at $14 dollars each. I cringed when she told me the price but I was also glad that I have an Agco dealer 4 miles from me and that they had everything in stock. That was worth a lot to me.

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Glen in TX

11-07-2006 22:02:00

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

What was the slogan on the package about genuine parts fitting and wearing like originals? There are aftermarket brake pads and shoes out there for many models now but not all fit well or run without squealing and get what you pay for on quality. Probably none of them made here anymore but just a different package and name and price jack up. It's how they stay in business.

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buickanddeere

11-07-2006 05:53:29

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

You are moaning that your dealer is still in business and has the parts for a 46+ year old machine? Try finding brake parts for a 46+ year old highway vehicle.

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jdemaris

11-07-2006 06:16:02

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Price-gouging to farmers? in reply to buickanddeere, 11-07-2006 05:53:29

Just bought brand new brakes for my 1918 Ford Model T. Both for the trans. band and also my Rocky-Mountain outboards. Much cheaper then buying brake-bands for my 1960 Deere 1010 crawler or my 1966 Case 580CK. Just bought a brand-new clutch disk for my 28 Ford Model A - cost $38. Try that with a new Chevy truck or late-model Deere tractor. The reality is - all these big companies conduct market and availability studies. If they know certain parts are available aftermarket - they price their own stuff competetively. If they think they are the only place to get certain parts - they they will rake you "over the coals" and charge a rediculous price.

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buickanddeere

11-07-2006 21:43:35

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Re: Price-gouging to farmers? in reply to jdemaris, 11-07-2006 06:16:02

Try finding 46+ year old parts for something other than the classic high volume model A, T, Ford 9N/2N/8N, 55-57 Chev or 1965 to 1970 muscle car. Precious little out there for any price. More of those parts move than head gaskets etc for a JD model D

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jdemaris

11-08-2006 08:28:27

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Re: Price-gouging to farmers? in reply to buickanddeere, 11-07-2006 21:43:35

My point was, and still is - the prices are based on consumer availability - and not on a corporation needing just X amount to make a fair profit. I was working for Deere when this pricing crap started. Seems around the late 70s, early 80s, farmers, loggers, dirtmovers, etc. got better at finding alternative sources for parts and lower prices. When the Internet got rolling, alternative sources got even easier to find. Deere started a policy of researching alternative part sources and prices - and lowering their's to compete. When Deere, et. al. has a part they figure you won't find anywhere else - the price skyrockets and you wallet empties. From a corporate view-point - it makes good business sense. Corporations care about no one or nothing except profit. They will only drop prices when sales fall off. When Deere had their big parts-strike mid-80s - for almost a year - initiated by the UAW and union greed - Deere Co. was in a mess. We had many good loyal Deere customers who felt betrayed and began to either seek alternative sources for parts - or quit Deere altogether. Many never came back. And yes, as you said - parts that are made in large quantities are cheap - as opposed to esoteric stuff. But, in my mind, that does not give a company the right - to charge you $200 for a part that cost them $5 to make - because they know you cannot get it anywhere else. I just put all new bushings in my Case 580CK backhoe. All but one were available afermarket. All the aftermarket bushings cost $5-$10 each and just a fraction more from Case. The one bushing that only Case has - cost $45 instead of $10. I bought an aftermarket and cut it down to size. In regard to your comment about the Deere G. I was working for Deere when they gave up all their two-cylinder stuff. I did not pay attention on how it was done and what the legal aggreements were. But, it was kind of sad. At that time - we had "block men" from Deere - that had the power to grant or nullify warranty claims - and they told us that Deere Company would stand behind any part they ever made - if proven to be defective. That is quite a promise! I had a Deere BO at the time with a sand-casting hole in the cylinder block. Only half-serious - our block man came to see us from Syracuse and I told him about my over-forty year old cylinder block that had a factory defect. He got me a new one, no charge, from Deere. Try that today - and I don't think you'll get too far.

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KEB

11-06-2006 20:13:22

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

Economy of scale. Many times more pickups than JD's x several sets of pads over the life of the vehicle = lower cost per unit.

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B-maniac

11-06-2006 20:05:19

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

Cheap offshore labor!

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RodInNS

11-06-2006 18:47:45

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

Mabey you should count yourself lucky that they only cost more than the PADS and SHOES for you truck, and not the whole truck.... The last tractor (wet) brake job I did ran something on the order of 2 grand, and I did the work...

Rod

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Roy Suomi

11-06-2006 16:32:37

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Re: John Deere brakes? in reply to Animal, 11-06-2006 16:26:21

Where else are you gonna find 'em ??? Brakes for my Silverado , I can buy on about any street corner..

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