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cheapest way to add weight?

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PJBrown

11-03-2006 17:10:43




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What's the cheapest way to add weight to the rear wheels? wheights or fliud ??




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ss impalla

11-04-2006 17:48:27




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
I"ve heard of people using water and antifreeze in their tires. I would use the type of antifreeze that is more safe to animals and the environment. I cant think of the name of it. It may not weigh as much as the calcium but I would think it would be a cheap way of doing it. Or maybe just water and alcohol?



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buickanddeere

11-04-2006 19:46:03




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
Cast concrete wheel weights. If done carefully they don't look like some cheap farmer tinkeration. Around here cast iron wheel weights are a bargain at $1 per pound. I’ll purchase a several tons at that price of $40 ea. I have to do something with my 1640 JD and loader. My Uncle, the previous owner was rather “economical” in his installation and maintaince of anything. The (*&%^&*(^*(()&( calcium chloride is eating the rims away.

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Allan In NE

11-04-2006 04:07:14




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
Paul,

The "cheapest" is the cast in the short run, but don't forget that the tractor has to "carry" that style weight on it's axle bearings.

Same thing holds true for front end weights. If they are not serving a purpose, get 'em the heck off of there as they are just causing undue wear on the tractor.

I'd load the tires first and only add cast as needed.

Allan



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RAB

11-04-2006 04:26:02




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to Allan In NE, 11-04-2006 04:07:14  
Sorry Allan, but wrong on this one unless you are not talking about the same weights as further down the replies. Wheel weights are bolted to the wheels, so not on the axle bearings.
Weight in a box bolted to the frame or hanging on a 3 point hitch would act through the axle bearings - just think of them as heavy wheels, justthe same as fluid filled tyres.
Regards, RAB



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Allan In NE

11-04-2006 04:50:22




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to RAB, 11-04-2006 04:26:02  
Gotta get the coffee on a little earlier in the morning, I guess.

'Course you're right. :>)

Allan



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John A.

11-03-2006 22:35:46




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
PJB, In the initial stages Liquid ballast looks to be the cheapest way out in getting your tractor weighted properly. But the problem with liquid is every time you have tire troubles on the rear the tire guys want to KNOW First Off....Is there liquid in the tires? This will add about $10 to $20 dallars to a service call out to your place. A couple or three of thoses will run into money right quickly.
For what it is worth....IMO....Cast wt is the way to go. always there, No extra charges when there is a flat. If you like take them ALL Off in certian applications. Or leave them on all the time. Cast is cheap too, at our local salvage yard then get $40.00 / set of 2, JD weights. Factory IH weight are about the same! So I hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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iowa_tire_guy

11-03-2006 18:29:49




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
I know a guy who fills his tires with water in the spring and then in the fall he drains it out when he puts the tractors away. That by far would be the cheapest if don't mind the extra work.



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old

11-03-2006 18:07:18




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
In the long run probably wheel weights but, they also make things harder to handle at time and the weight for some reason doesn't seem to do as much as fluid does. My self I use wiper fluid in my tires any more to save rim problems and a 13.9X28 tire will hold around 30 gallions so that would be around $30 for the fluid. So far I have never found a wheel weight I could by that cheap. But if you have a flat tire you can loose the fluid so then your back to buying more so its sort of 6 to one 1/2 dozen to the other.

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Gerald J.

11-03-2006 17:55:13




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
Until you get the side effects, liquid, generally calcium chloride is the cheapest weight. When a tire leaks, the resulting pile of rust costs a whole lot more to recover than you saved. There is no if, just when and when there is a leak, there is instant rust, through the paint.

There are alternatives to CaCl that weigh a bit less, such as windshield spray, or one out of Michigan based on beet juice but that beet juice is expensive and I've not found many places carrying it.

I used to have CaCl in my MF-135, then a tire side wall cracked and pinched the tube. The tractor rusted instantly because it was an inside sidewall and I was running down the road. The new tires having tread pulled better without liquid than the old ones did with and I'm never putting CaCl in a tractor of mine again.

Gerald J.

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fixerupper

11-03-2006 18:06:29




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to Gerald J., 11-03-2006 17:55:13  
Had calcium in the wheels on the 1086 until a rim split on the inside and fluid shot up under the cab. In a few weeks all of the shifting linkage was rusted tight and I had to spend a whole day bending over the hole in the cab floor removing, polishing, lubing, and putting back every moving part down there. Now the fluid is replaced by five weights per wheel. Three on the inside and two on the outside. The tires were replaced last spring and the other rim had to be replaced too. It looked great on the outside but was darn near rusted through on the inside. Jim

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phillip d

11-03-2006 17:44:43




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 Re: cheapest way to add weight? in reply to PJBrown, 11-03-2006 17:10:43  
i never compared prices to tell you for sure,but most people will load the tires before adding any weight if that is any help?phill



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