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Don-Wi

10-29-2006 18:31:45




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I was out cleaning up the north side of our fence line today with the chain saw. I was cutting up some really nasty thorny crap (1-1 1/2" thorns on most). Once I got to where some of the new houses are built, the first lady called the local law enforcement because I was cutting the branches off right up on the trees, which happened to be right on the line, and some were just on their side. One tree I just cut it down because it had the thorns, and it poked me where the sun don't shine. It was a good foot on our side, but it landed in their yard because of the way of the wind and some branches over hung into their yard.

I was about 3 yards over once the officer got there, yadda yadda yadda.... I guess she was upset because her husband was out of town (gone to the Packer game) and she didn't know what to do (how about come out and talk to a guy instead of getting the cops involved???) and she thought it landed on a shrib they just planted, and I didn't remove the tree from the yard yet (too big to move by hand, and I was out there with my truck, not a tractor and chain).

Long story short, he just told me to basically tread lightly and make sure the home owners don't have problems with me cutting right up to the tree and making them look 1/2 decent. I talked to all the neighbors before I continued cutting and the rest, even one county officer, laughed and said that by all means I have every right to go into their yard and cut the branch off where it should be cut, and they won't give us any greif.

I guess to be fair I should have been politically correct and asked every person for permission to go about my own business.

Just gotta vent a little I guess. So far I counted atleast 30 different pokes, prods, and scratches that drew blood today. Now for the clean up..... Gonna pile most of it and just light it up, if they don't have a problem with that too...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Butcher

10-30-2006 18:00:32




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
Tell them to move back to town where they belong. Or, try this.
A motorist, after being bogged down in a muddy road, paid a passing farmer fifty dollars to pull him out with his tractor. After he was back on dry ground he said to the farmer, "At those prices, I should think you would be pulling people out of the mud night and day." "Can't," replied the farmer. "At night I haul water for the hole."

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Patchfarmer

10-30-2006 15:45:26




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
I guess the thing that bothers me is all of the trash that blows onto your property. Was running a disc mower last year and heat a golf ball. It hit me right in the middle of my ear. I guess the jagged edge cut my ear and had to get 2 stitches. Man was I pissed.



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Don-Wi

10-30-2006 22:14:32




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Patchfarmer, 10-30-2006 15:45:26  
Yup, trash is a big thing that pis$es me off. Over the last 3 years, the amount of trash in our fields has skyrocketed a ton. Mostly just newspaper, but some credit card bills etc., with all of their personal information on it.... and tons of cronstruction debris.

Last winter I went with the loader, picked up all the crap,(house wrap mostly) and dumped in back on their side, and put a frozen clod of dirt on it so it wouldn't come back. And it didn't either....

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Mike M

10-30-2006 13:01:12




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
You maybe should of left them there,maybe even put more up ? This way it would keep them and their kids and pets from coming across.



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RickL

10-29-2006 23:36:49




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
Speaking of border fence lines farm land next to mine sold, double what it was worth so I ddint get it anyway bring in dozer push out the border fence line,my half also with out word said to us. Ain't that nice,looks like court case. Anyone have any ideas on this one.



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Don-Wi

10-30-2006 10:51:29




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to RickL, 10-29-2006 23:36:49  
Did you talk to the developer yet? We had problems where the developer was putting in roads that lead up to our feilds, and the operators went into our feilds to turn around. It was early in the spring so it was really wet and they left some nasty ruts. We got a hold of the developer (one owner is better than his partner/brother) and they agreed to pay for the damages. We figured out a reasonable estimate for our time and effort, as well as just the plaing hassle of it.

They had no problem cutting us a check for *I think* about $750. He also gave my mom $40 in cash and said to go outm to eat. That's exactly what we did.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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RickL

10-30-2006 16:04:03




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-30-2006 10:51:29  
Nope have not even met the new land owner lady I am told. All Ihave seen is dozer in pushed out the fence and left. did find out who the dozer was thou, and he never even asked to push out my half. Anyway its gone and so are the line corner posts. look to me like the dozer operasteor will be paying for my new fence. Will see



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toolz

10-29-2006 20:49:59




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
I hate to even get started on the neighbor thing, but I will anyway. Built my house 10 years ago, miles from town. Since then, there has been no less than 20 times where some sort of government official (police, EPA, health department, zoning folks, etc.) have shown up on my door following up a complaint by a neighbor down the street. Not one violation ever, and they always apologize for bothering me. The neighbor does it to everybody out here. Had to whoop her in court once to shut her up. Good thing is that she is old, and I think I"m gonna out live her. "Till then, I"ll mind my own business as always.

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Don-Wi

10-29-2006 21:03:14




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Hermit, 10-29-2006 19:53:44  
As far as the fire goes, it'll be in the middle of an open feild, bare dirt, nothing to catch fire. It'll be a while if we do burn it, my dad was thinking chipper but I don't think it's a good idea, considering how many times I stabbed my hands on the thorns. One thing on burning, we've had large fires on our farm before and never with a permit. Several times the neighbors thought our barn was on fire because the flames were over the roof, but it was just brush behind the barn.


The thing that burns me about this, is that the branches overhang 15+ ft. into our feilds, so yeah they should have been cut a while ago already. Almost all of the trees, atleast where I trimmed them off, were on our side and fell on our side. Only a few were over the line, but they still over hang. If I would have gone out there 3 years ago, maybe 2 of those houses would be there, and I wouldn't have had any problems.

The officer never said it was okay for me to tramps all over the yard and do what I want, but if they really have a problem with me trimming trees that have been there 20 years longer than their houses, where they can't trim them on our side themselves, it's kinda stupid to call the cops. Atleast have the decency to go out and talk to him if he didn't already think to talk to you, instead of jumping the gun and calling law enforcement right away. I could have been an a--hole and just cut everything right above my head, right on the line and been well within my rights to do so, but I also beleive in doing a more attractive job of pruning, not like what the local companies do around power lines just hacking the he11 out of the trees. We've been dealing with bad neighbors on other feilds who think they can dump they're grass clippings in our hay feilds, which just so happen to plug the sickle and cause us trouble. They use our feild as a golf driving range, and arecreational area for their 4 wheelers, dirtbikes, and snowmobiles.
I got sick of it and dropped the plow as close to the line as I could, and put a nice deep furrow there. Stopped quite a bit of trouble really quick.


I'm sick of people who just moved out into the country, and expect a farmer to bend to their will, and comply with every bul1sh1t thing they can think of. We are constantly cleaning up plastic, house wrap, and other construction debris that blows into our feilds because they are too lazy to put something on the scrap so it doesn't blow away, and when it does, they just watch it go.

Politics has everything to do with it. If this were 20 years ago, each farmer (atleast in our particular neighborhood) would trim the tree as they needed and saw fit. All the neighbors are gone now, closest operating dairy from us is about 2 miles away, and then another 1-2 miles after that. The city just recently annexed right up to our property line. We've had developers knocking on our doors, constantly asking to buy. We have people dumping yard waste at the edge of the field where the road comes up to it. We thought about putting up a nice big fence, with gates and padlocks, but then it'd be an attractive nuisance and we could really loose our a$$ on the whole thing, so we are expected to bend over and take it, without any kind of restitution. So to you, there may be other ways to go about it, but we've been fighting a battle that you don't understand. Our farm has been in the family since Lincoln was president, and is now being forced out by the so-called "progress", where people want to live in the country, but don't realize they are just bringing the city with them and they are completely missing the point, much like you.

Have a nice day.

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thejdman01

10-30-2006 15:26:51




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 21:03:14  
Oh i love the kid who kicks his soccer ball in the field, hits baseballs and golf balls in the field. Garbage can gets knocked over and all blows into the field. Grass clippingsetc love poeple. My favorite is a new subdivision went in next to my field thats been there god knows how long and when your combining next to their grass (no trees etc on property line) and a stray cob or some straw gets on theri lawn they call the cops?!!!???? I do ALWAYS try to empty the machine before turning around and not deliberatly spray cobs stalks, bean stems on their lawn but some is bound to drift their way. My FAVORITE was last year combining beans the lady called the cops because yher son had ashthma????? ????? ?!!!!! !!!! I was really thinking wtblooy can i do about it take you kid somewhere, well youll still get dust in my house and your point????? Cops didnt pursue it very far and dont think they could.

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Animal

10-30-2006 05:34:00




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 21:03:14  
Amen brother, I hear ya about the plastic and golf ball, you forgot cans and bottles, we lost a good neghbor to cancer this spring, his kids sold to a developer, supposed to put 350 units right on the property line, since then I have developed a keen interest in pork production. The hog houses are going in the first sign of a concrete truck, and I am dead serious. Just sick of it!



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John S-B

10-30-2006 07:55:50




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Animal, 10-30-2006 05:34:00  
You better do it NOW, that way they can't say a thing. My big thing is all the people who just let there dogs run wild "because it's the country". I don't mind the neighbors walking on my side to pick berries they can't reach on their property, but when I get dog crap in my yard that's pi$$es me off.



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Don-Wi

10-30-2006 08:53:42




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to John S-B, 10-30-2006 07:55:50  
I've seen one neighbor's dog in our feild a couple times, but I've also seen it eating and rolling in some good stuff in the feild. I figure a good pile of dog puke on thier carpet in the house is as good of a pay back as it can get. even better would be if it found the family of skunks we have on the farm.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Don-Wi

10-30-2006 07:49:41




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Animal, 10-30-2006 05:34:00  
I made sure to haul lots of manure on the feild the first year, just so they realized just what they were living next to. A few weeks ago the cows got out, and one of them yesterday told me they even had on in their yard. Didn"t bother them, they even had a few pies in the yard. Those kind of neighbors I really don"t mind, and I plan to keep friendly with as many as I can. I told a few of them if they pull out the old barbed wire I"ll take it when I get a chance and get rid of it myself.

The golf balls isn"t all that bad, it could be worse. They have a basketball court next to our feild, and they usually mow a baseball diamond in the grass too. I"ve found several baseballs and tennis balls in the feild, and many golf balls. Now they"re mine to loose when I go to the greens with my dad and 4 brothers...

I"m planning to move out to a smaller town (possibly Stockbridge) about 15 minutes away in the next county, where they have a minimum land purchase to build new, and not so many people are building out that way. I"d buy an existing house, and would like to buy an existing barn and some land to go with it too.

As far as my pruning excapades go, if it were a tree that THEY would have planted, I would never think of cutting on it without permission, but these are just ones that grew in the fence row and never got trimmed back.

I think pigs is a great idea there animal, just gotta let them know that it"s still an active farm behind them and they will have to tolerate a good deal of stink...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Doug in Illinois

10-29-2006 19:51:55




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
It sometimes isn't just problems with people complaining that makes bad neighbors. We (my mother, sister, and I) had a little problem we never pursued regarding "neighbors" doing as they say fit. Back in Nebraska at the farm an 80 next to us sold and had the trees/ fences/ ditches dozed out to make a pivot work. Didn't even think about where some of the steel posts ended up until I ran one thru a sidewall of a tractor tire well inside our side of the property line, let alone what was happened to the rerouted ditches putting runoff where it never was B4. My Mom passed away a couple years ago, they wanted to buy our property also B4 they did the pivot to make a full 1/4 section, we said NO. Now they seem to think they can buy it from sis and I. Ain't gonna happen, this centennial farm isn't going away, especially to people who can't at least advise maybe the dozers got a little careless.

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Glen in TX

10-29-2006 19:25:57




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
Yep better check on the burning as you might have to haul it off. Yeah I know what you mean about stuff like that. Maybe that's what I should do is call the law on new neighbors that left a big mess they started and never finished? Pile up trees and stumps and then let the whole mess next to field grow up in weeds all year long yet it's not my responsiblity to clean up their mess but I'm getting weed seed and tumble weeds from their mess now. grrrrr. They were too lazy to finish what they started I guess and it's going to now become a fire hazard they can be held responsible for soon if they don't get it cleaned up.

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Jimmy King

10-29-2006 18:55:51




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
Had a new neighbor one time he cut out the fence row between us, had no problem with that if he had have talked to me first. When I discovered it he had cut one tree about 8 inches in dia. up about 10 inches high and 2 ft. away from fence on my side. I would have loved it if I had not found that and hit it with the 12 ft haybine while opening up the field in the spring. He got kind of huffy about it said where he come from they did that all the time.

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37 chief

10-29-2006 19:12:13




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Jimmy King, 10-29-2006 18:55:51  
I sure hate it when people cut off trees like that. I have run across two fields that I mow with stumps about radiator high. In the high weeds they are real hard to see. Big rocks are a problem also. This year someone pushed a large rock onto a field I knew had no large rocks last year. Just missed it, now I know where it is for next year. Stan



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Don-Wi

10-29-2006 21:08:38




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to 37 chief, 10-29-2006 19:12:13  
Yup, trees gotta be cut off higher than the weeds, unless it's right in the fence row where you'll never get with a tractor. I've got a couple that I think have been cut off long enough, I can maybe rip them out with a tractor this fall...

Until then,... I dunno

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Jimmy King

10-29-2006 19:24:54




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to 37 chief, 10-29-2006 19:12:13  
My Dad and I were putting hay up on a place one time for 1/2. A friend of ours told us there was a stump and about where it was I looked and looked and did not find it. A man that helped the woman that owened the place was in the next field so I stopped Paul and asked him where it was He said I mowed that field 3 times last year and I don't know of any stump. I was pulling a 479 NH with a 400D third gear, got back on the tractor started up the back side of the field hit the stump killed the tractor bent the axle on the haybind.

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Don L C

10-29-2006 18:53:34




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don-Wi, 10-29-2006 18:31:45  
Now down here on south west Ohio you cant burn open fires..... but you can have open camp fires to cook hot dogs and roast marshmellows...just be sure to have the roasting equipment and foods on hand..... you are waiting for the fire to burn down for good roasting....invite them to join in....bring your oun food.....



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john cub owner

10-30-2006 05:35:12




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 Re: Dang neighbors in reply to Don L C, 10-29-2006 18:53:34  
Here in rural Mo. neighbors are glad to see you clear a fence row, though we do contact them before starting. Most of the time they will be there to help. The one exception is some people that moved in from the St. Louis area, and had some brush (not trees) that were growing out so far in the road they blocked the vision on a curve of our public road. When one of the neighbor boys started to trim it back they told him they didn't want it cut and would call the sherriff if he kept on. It was on his property, but the road is one we and others have right of way on. For some reason, the brush died anyway a couple of weeks later. LOL.

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