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Ethics 101

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Aaron Ford

10-29-2006 18:05:18




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I need some input here. I am curious if it is morally okay to photograph old tractors from the road. The reason would be to research said tractor to come up with a opening offer when the owner (and said cash) is tracked down. All tractors have been parked for at least the last 4 years and are in various stages of disrepair.

Half of me says "Heck NO!". Its not yours and you have no right.

The rest of me says, "It's just a picture."

All tractors are visible and shootable from the road. Which answer is more correct?

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DRL

10-30-2006 14:42:50




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
It is probably legal to take the pics, but I think that I would try to track down the owner beforehand anyhow. If the owner or a neighbor sees a strange vehicle stopped by the side of the road and someone snapping pictures of their place, a lot of suspicions will be raised. You may never gain the trust of these folks. Face it, nowdays, folks are highly suspicious of anything out of the ordinary. Do your homework, find the owner and let him know of your intentions. Like others have said, you may get a lot of the history of the tractor right then and there and gain a friend. You only have one chance to make a good first impression.

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cj3b_jeep

10-30-2006 07:07:06




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
You have every LEGAL right to take pictures of anything that is visible from the road, however, it's very beneicial to ask permission for several reasons. 1) You won't have some mad farmer chasing you with a shotgun, dogs or anything else that can severely injure you. 2) By getting closer you can get a better shot of the tractor, and 3) When you speak with the farmer, he probably shares your interest in old iron, and either has another one you can't see, or can send you to the guy down the road that has a really nice on you would have not otherwise seen. Many old tractors have sentimental value and people are usually more than willing to share their story with you.
I do a simillar project with old cars, you can find it at the link below.

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cj3b_jeep

10-30-2006 07:08:43




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to cj3b_jeep, 10-30-2006 07:07:06  
Sorry, here's the website:
www.brokendownheroes.com



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MF#1

10-30-2006 06:21:23




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
SMILE! You"re on "someones" satellite lens right now/then/eventually. Did "they" ask you? Might try an overhead pic online and see if you can make out some detail. I have a pic somewhere of a tractor on my farm taken by a satellite, now sold by terraserver.



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Doug in IL

10-30-2006 05:12:37




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
I know if someone stops to take a picture of my place, I'm going to want to know why.



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mjbrown

10-30-2006 05:02:57




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
If you are in the road you can take the picture. You are not beaming camera rays onto someones property. They parked their tractor where sun rays are bouncing off it and onto public right of way and right into your face (or camera).



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85_Ranger4x4

10-29-2006 21:47:52




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
Of course if the farmer sees you doing it, and the tractor turns up missing the next week, you could be in hot water. If nothing else I would ask permission first, it hardly ever hurts.



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Doug in Illinois

10-29-2006 20:01:02




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
The way I see it, anything visible from public property should be able to be photographed. There would be a few exceptions, such as should respect the wishes of the Amish or similar regards this because of religious beliefs, or in possible cases of national security such as possibly taking lots of pictures of bridge supports from a boat, etc.



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Aaron Ford

10-29-2006 19:53:59




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
Thanks for the responses.

All tractors are displayed, some more than others. All are near the road. None are in use.

Not sure why it bothers me. Not postive that it does.

If I do not take said pics, progress in this hobby would cease with my current project.

Should have had that moral-ectomy done and taken up law.



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John S-B

10-30-2006 08:01:01




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 19:53:59  
As has been said, I'd ask just to get some more insight into the history of the tractor. If the tractors are "displayed" then it would probably make the owner feel good that someone would want to take a picture of the tractor.



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Hal/WA

10-29-2006 18:30:36




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
I would say that if it bothers you to take a photo, don't do it.

On the other hand, unless you have to trespass to take a photo, or the owner comes running over demanding that you stop photographing, I can not see any reason that you could not photograph it. It would sure make it easier to identify the tractor if you should decided to try to buy it at a later time with some knowledge of what you are dealing with.

But again, when it comes to a moral question, if something you are considering doing bothers you, you probably should avoid doing it and thus avoid the bad feelings it might bring you. Good luck!

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135 Fan

10-29-2006 18:29:19




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
I don't think a picture is going to hurt anybody. Especially from the road. On the land you would want to get permission. If the farmer doesn't want anyone to see it or photograph it, he can move it or cover it. Dave



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should be JD_Tractor

10-29-2006 18:27:38




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to Aaron Ford, 10-29-2006 18:05:18  
Sure,shoot away. can't see why anyone would object,unless maybe their wife was on board



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john cub owner

10-30-2006 05:37:55




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to should be JD_Tractor, 10-29-2006 18:27:38  
I believe that if it is where it can be seen form a public roadway, and you are using the pictures for personal reason, not publishing them, it is legal.



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B-maniac

10-31-2006 18:12:06




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 Re: Ethics 101 in reply to john cub owner, 10-30-2006 05:37:55  
Taking the pictures is perfectly legal and perfectly moral. It is what you plan to use the photos for that matters. To use them for what you stated on here is not immoral. I can't believe we are all even having this discussion!



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