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Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow

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Charlie T in VA

10-25-2006 11:38:05




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I was woundering which plow setup was better and why? I have never used a trailer plow, but see them on the plow day pictures, the trailer plow seems to be more popular with the older tractors. What advantages come from using a trailer plow vs a 3PH plow. For Example a 3PH 3x16 plow seems to take less effort than pulling and turning around a 3x14 trailer plow. Thanks for the info.




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Allan In NE

10-25-2006 15:48:37




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
Charlie,

Last trailer plow I was in front of was back in May of 1963.

No notable difference at all if ya have the right kind of plow. :>)

Allan

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730virgil

10-25-2006 15:23:14




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
i would think most people that take a tractor and plow to a plowing day would haul them on a trailer . it seems to me would be lot easier to load and unload mounted plow than a pull type



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Hugh MacKay

10-25-2006 12:25:30




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
Charlie: There are a number of factors, both for and against either plow. First and foremost was plowing quality, the mounted hitches of 50-60 years ago could not hold a candle to the old trailer plows on plowing quality. Secondly tractor wheel tread setting was far more crucial for mounted plows. Often times mounted plows required wheel tread setting farmers didn't particularly want the rest of the year.

For the mounted plow was ease of movment from one field to another. Draft controlled hitches allowed tractors to pull more plow with less trator weight.

I guess it's been more a case of which factors the individual valued more. Those values did change over the years. I remember once leaving a new Farmall 1066, cab and air along with a new 5x16 semi mounted plow, complete with setup instructions on seat of tractor, along a fence row. Both my dad and a neighbor were long time trailer plow men, to them a new mounted plow was nothing more than scrap metal. Mounted plows weren't even worthy of discussion, in their books. 5 days later they had burnt 100 gallons of diesel fuel and were looking for more. They wouldn't even give me a chance to plow that fall. Their main argument was cab, they had both plowed for over 40 years in Canadian Novembers on open station tractors. This may have been their last kick at the can, and they both told me I'd have 40 years to plow in a cab.

What's interesting about this, they always came for a tractor for plowing their garden after that. They always managed to show up when the semi mount was hitched to a tractor. Interesting as I had a Farmall 130 with 2x12 mounted plow, ideal for garden plowing. I guess it wasn't fast enough.

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Bob/Ont

10-25-2006 12:14:56




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
A trailer plow does a better job because it follows the land on it's three wheels. A 3point hitch plow adds traction to the lighter tractors with that system.
Later Bob



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John (MO)

10-25-2006 12:04:26




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
All other things being equal, I believe you will find that a trailer type plow pulls a little easier than a 3 point mounted plow. Now as soil types change and mounted plows on some tractors rise to help control traction, there you will find the mounted plow has an advantage sometimes. Of couse you can usually get into tight spaces easier with a mounted plow also.



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Gerald J.

10-25-2006 12:01:04




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
Trash is the short answer. Three bottoms on a three point get too close together to pass corn stalks and plug up unless the corn stalks are shreaded with a stalk chopper (typically a big flail mower). Even my Case 2 bottom did that a lot. And when it got pluged it took me a lot of work to get it back plowing.

The last I plowed was with a semi mounted 3 or 4 bottom AC plow where the plow beam is long and the space between bottoms lets unchopped corn stalks pass. The semimounted plow puts some down pressure on the tractor three point hitch (using only the two bottom pins) and has its own lift wheel for steering and depth control out back. Its not as maneuverable as a three point plow but its more maneuverable than a full trailer plow.

The best plows I've seen for clearance are the IH 720 series. Long beam, lots of space between plow bottoms and bottoms mounted by a single smooth tall shank.

Gerald J.

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Grub

10-25-2006 11:51:18




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
Charlie, you can't beat a 3 point plow for manuverability. Many of the older tractors that you see on plow day did not have 3 point hitches so the trailer plow was the only option.
I used a 3-14" Massey 3 pt plow and a 3-16" IH no.8 pull type plow and the Massey plow seemed to plug up with trash easily. I was amazed at how that IH plow could clear trash and rarely did it plug up. Both were equipped with coulters.
I use a 2-14" Oliver pull type to work a 1 acre garden space and though it's a pain to turn around it beats a hoe and spade any day.

Grub

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RustyFarmall

10-25-2006 11:45:18




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to Charlie T in VA, 10-25-2006 11:38:05  
If you have a tractor with a factory 3 point hitch, then a 3 point hitch plow is the best way to go. You see the trailer type plows at plow days becuse most, if not all, of those old tractors did not have a 3 point hitch. Besides that, it is just fun to get that old tractor out, hitch it to a plow of the same vintage, and do it like it was done 50 years ago.



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ShepFL

10-25-2006 11:52:30




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-25-2006 11:45:18  
Ditto to Rusty's comments. I am no means an expert but it seems to me the trailer plow does a "prettier" job of plowing.
To me it it forces the tractor driver to anticipate more and plan correct entry and exits.

I have both and must admit the 3pth is handier to move and work thru hard ground. Tearing down my Oliver 4340 as spare parts for my Oliver 3241 (shins, landslides, colters etc).



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steveormary

10-25-2006 13:17:48




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 Re: Questions on Trailer Plow vs 3PH Plow in reply to ShepFL, 10-25-2006 11:52:30  
I have used 2-14 3pth on Fords and Fergusons,a
MH 3-14 trailer plow pulled by a SM Farmall and a 4-16 fast hitch semi-mount on a 706 German. The MH plow had the best looking furrows and the fast hitch plow would handle the most trash.

steveormary



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