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#2 deisel and #2 heating oil?

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10-13-2006 10:03:11




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Are they the same for the most part. Can I use the #2 heating oil in my 70's deisel tractors? One co op says yes, one says no. I plan on mixing it with a tank of Arctic deisel. would be about 100 gallons #2 heating oil added to 170 (approx) Arctic deisel. Some one let me know please. It was free from a neighbor that converted to LP was fresh last march




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Oldmax

10-15-2006 19:26:11




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
The manul for my Ford/New Holand recomends the use of #1 for the use in tractor when the Temp goes below 20 Deg . It don't gel like #2 in cold weather. The money you save won't be worth the trouble to mix oils . My tractor only uses about 4.5 Gal in 8 hours Brush Hoging .



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mowr

10-14-2006 18:50:33




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
Just as surely as every gas engine has a minimum, numbered, 'octane' anti-knock requirement, every diesel engine has a minimum, numbered, 'cetane' anti-knock requirement. Likewise, all gasoline and diesel fuel is engineered to a certain, numbered, rating. My car has a minimum octane requirement of 87 and my tractors have a minimum cetane requirement of 40. Find out what your tractors' requirement is and then find out if the supplier will give you a written guarantee that it meets or exceeds that number. The supplier who said 'no' probably is worried that you might buy fuel oil for diesel use from them and doesn't want to work up the needed documentation or be responsible if there's a problem.

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Bill(Wis)

10-14-2006 05:01:39




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
If you really want to check that heating oil for quality, here are a couple of easy home methods: 1. Fill a one quart super clean mason jar to 3/4 full and visually examine it for clarity, water, solids or sediment. Then close the jar and swirl it and examine for traces of water at the vortex bottom. There should be no suspended or visible free water. Sample, ideally, should have a nice clean and "bright" appearance. A slight sparkle in sunlight indicates good fresh fuel. There may be air bubbles present which will give the fuel a hazy appearance but they will rise to the top and dissipate after a short time. Water droplets will drop to the bottom. 2. Take a super clean white porcelain bucket and fill it with fuel to a depth of 8". Let it sit for one minute to remove air bubbles. Place the white bucket on a level surface and drop a shiny copper coin in it. If the coin characteristics can be distinguished, the fuel is considered clean. Also look at the bottom of the bucket for sedimant or other solid contaminants. Slime also shows up real good in the white bucket.

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john in la

10-13-2006 20:04:18




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
The only differance in #2 heating oil and #2 diesel is the # you put into the computer at the refinery loading rack when loading it so the correct tax gets charged.

Now are you sure it is #2 heating oil????? ?????
A lot of heating oil is mixed with #1 heating oil or kero to keep it from jelling.



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showcrop

10-13-2006 17:03:00




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
current low sulpher hiway blend can be very hard on injection pumps more than about ten years old because of lack of lubricity. so you are much better off with #2 heating oil.



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mjbrown

10-13-2006 13:37:35




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
Delivered out of the same truck at my house. Different ticket for the fuel that goes into the heating oil tank to reflect the addition of sales tax, 8%. No tax on farm diesel. HMMMM.



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BillyinStoughton

10-13-2006 12:41:49




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
Installed a natural gas furnace in my buddies house last weekend. Took out the old oil burner, and took what was in his storage tank and he ran it all out in his truck this week. No problemo!



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TX

10-13-2006 11:20:56




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
Agree that it should be no problem. In addition to the filtering, I would add 1 quart of DFA to each 50 gallons of fuel mixture. Diesel fuel additives are available in several brands, I use APS, or if not available then Shell DFA. This will prevent gelling, remove some moisture, lube pump, raise cetane rating by several points, other benefits. Tom



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Bill(Wis)

10-13-2006 10:41:12




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 Re: #2 deisel and #2 heating oil? in reply to need to know for sure, 10-13-2006 10:03:11  
Should be no problem at all assuming quality has not been seriously degraded in storage. Filter it real good through a new water separating filter as you pump it into the tractor. It will be heavier than the arctic.



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