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Antonio J

10-13-2006 04:30:47

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I am buying a 580B Case. The reverse and forward do not work. There is no pressure on guage for shuutle clutch. I am wondering if pump in transmission is gone or is it the clutch packs that are gone. It has no pressure in neutral.

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Kent in KC

10-13-2006 11:01:57

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to Antonio J, 10-13-2006 04:30:47

I have a 580K that I had a similar problem with. Turned out the bucket tilt lever had stuck hard over and was sapping all the hydraulic power from the tranny. Make sure all levers and 'in neutral' before you do anything else (with the engine idling you should not hear the sound of fluid hissing through the system). Make sure you have fluid, obviously, and a clean filter.

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BobHnwOh

10-13-2006 05:39:49

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to Antonio J, 10-13-2006 04:30:47

I have a 580B,raise back tires off the ground with stabs,put it in 3nd gear,put shuttle lever in fwd or reverse and run about 1500 rpm for 10 or 15 minutes,should move then,HTH,Bob.

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the tractor vet

10-13-2006 05:37:58

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to Antonio J, 10-13-2006 04:30:47

Been there done that and my best advice to you is RUN as fast and far as you can as you are about to get a degree in higher learning on just how much one littel box of pices and parts can cost . Ofcourse that is if it still avlabule as the pices and parts for a 580 B case back hoe are no longer Avalibule, a couple years ago a local guy came to me with this LITTEL probelm his 580B after it warmed up for 5-10 min. would not go foward and he just bought this here hoe that him and a buddy went to look at that was SUCH a DEAL As it was only 10500 bucks but they realy did not know much about one but it was a real steal . Any who i tryed not to get into this bad deal from the start but he was a friend of a friend and i got stuck in the middel . Well first off this machine had a cab and it was a toqure convertershuttel or hyd shuttel depending on how ya want to call it . First off it was a nightmare getting it split then i get the shuttel out of it and tore down well the foward clutch pack is plum wiped out , ok not a big deal here need clutches and plates and some seals and a couple of this and that and we are home free , YEA WRIGHT guess what go to the case industrail store and was treated like i had the plauge well i don't need this guy as there are othere place for me to get parts to fix this thing , well after tryen to find parts the only thing that i could get for it was a whole NEW shuttel at the mear cost of 4750 buck and it was not for a loader backhoe it was for a 580 B wioth out a back hoe but with live PTo but if you did this to it and that to it it would work but firt ya had to find the three soft plug to plug the hole going thru it that the PTO shaft sealed with sealing rings and here again after a week of tryen to find the case part no. we ended up going to a machine shop and having them made . So since i already had a month invested in this job and was loosen my donkey on it and sure as heck did not want to EVER SEE this thing back i ended up going thru everything only to find that this guy also needed a new torque converter there i found a rebuilt one and after it was all back together and i had my money i come to find out that he had a price from the Case store to fix this for over 10000 bucks and he got off real cheep from me with only a littel over 7800 in his bill So he now has a 580 B that for what he has in it he could have stoped buy my place and with one phone call i could have had him a GOOD running580 C or newer for what he paid for the B before the repairs. So when you find a use pice of Ind. equipment it is usualy WELL used up. But it is your money.

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Blue3992

10-13-2006 16:58:29

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to the tractor vet, 10-13-2006 05:37:58

Tractor Vet speaks the truth.

I'm no mechanic, but about 14 years ago I watched my Dad bring home a Case 420 backhoe that was "a great deal." Ran good, drove forward and backward, everything worked well.

Except for the fact that the clutch was all burned up on the thing.

It would go forwad all right, but it didn't even have enough pushing power to plow the snow off the driveway. and replacing the clutches meant splitting the tractor, which we weren't really equipped to do, not to mention the cost of getting a new clutch.

So, now it sits, just rusting away.

I'm sure there's god deals out there, just make sure you know what you're getting into.

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IaGary

10-13-2006 04:40:40

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to Antonio J, 10-13-2006 04:30:47

Antonio

I have a 580B and it acts the same way when its cold or low on fluid.

When its cold air temp outside I have to let it warm up for a few minutes after starting to get it to move.

After it warms up it has good pull.

I know that ain't right but its been that way for years and no more than I use it I ain't gonna spend money on it till it won't move.

Did you let it warm for a while? Does it have fuild? And maybe the gauge don't work. Mine doesn't.

Gary

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Ken Macfarlane

10-13-2006 05:17:00

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Re: Case 580B Backhoe in reply to IaGary, 10-13-2006 04:40:40

Just a quick note, a neighbour has a Case 580b that he dug our septic test pit with. I asked him the hours and he said it is getting close to 40,000!!!!! ! I think he must be mistaken but it is one beat up hoe. The boom has about 2 ft of slop when swinging, and the bucket can move up and down almost a foot before the linkage slop is taken up.

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