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Tom Wise

10-03-2006 13:04:58




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I was reading that post about the Inconsiderate Farmer and it made me wonder. I'm one of those that moved out of the City to get a small (6 acre) place to spend the rest of my days. I still work in the city and commute. I would never complain about a tractor Slowing me down, for I know they are just tryin to get to work themselves. It may be inconvenient , But thats the price I'm willing to pay. But in reading that thread I saw several times some Real Farmers speaking unkindly of the transplanted City Slicker. Do yall all feel that way?
I personally have tried to fit in. Although I have notice that the Some Not all of the older farmers seem to be a bit clickish. Like I don't belong out there. I like it out there though. Its quiet, Safe, I don't mind the smells. Hell I contribute with my Small herd of Miniature Cows, Chickens, Ducks, horses,turkeys, goats, etc....
I ask questions and try to do things right. I get along with my neighbors, but sometimes in our little town I just feel out of place by some. Seems everyone is related in this town. So whats the deal. If you haven't been on that land for 150 years. you need to just leave?

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jddriver

10-04-2006 07:59:56




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I dont think farmers are jerks,I just dont like these peaple moving here and expecting me to change to fit them.Here is a clue if you dont have room to ride your 4 wheelr or motorcycle on your property dont buy one!I have about 23.3 acres that is totallt flat from these peaple Steve



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TCWINKC

10-04-2006 07:00:03




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I help my best friend with 250 acres of crops in what used to be farm country, everything around him is now high dollar homes. His farm has been in the family for over a hundred years.He has had county sheriff called for harvesting fields after eightPM.Sometimes you gotta get the crops out when you can. They moved in to an area wanting to be around "country life" but then make it impossible for those that rely on "country life" to do what is reasonably necessary.Currently the next biggest town is trying to annex his land to plant more tax revenue. It all boils down to common courtesy which for the most part no longer exists.Most country or city folk at his point in time have had enough of all of it.I try now to be level headed when dealing with people who may not be familiar with common courtesy.Our biggest trouble is with the horse people.They buy a three acre tract put up a fancy house,little barn and a 20x20 lot.Then ride on buddies property as if it is there own. We give them three times before contacting the law.Here in MO purple paint law is not commonly known. Same as they may need some "learnin" on property etiqutte, we need on what to do with all them forks....

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Hard Knocks

10-04-2006 05:48:41




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I have many surburban type neighbors and most are real nice and easy to get along with but there are a couple of them that are a real pain in the butt.If you want to get along with farmer
neighbors a few sugestions.Respect property lines
don't let your kids or your dogs treat the farmers property as if it were a public park.Just because he has 500 acres he 'doesn't use' doesn't mean he wants you or yours on it especially without permission.Mind your buisness and let him mind his, enquiring minds are not popular especially before you have been there awhile.Don't complain about farming practices you should have been aware of them before you bought the place.Keep your speed down on country roads around where you live hitting a kid's dog or otherwise terrorizing the neighborhood will get you on the pooplist real quick.Remember you need to fit in a lot more than they need for you to fit in with them.

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Nolan

10-04-2006 04:27:27




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
No, not all farmers feel the way the ranters frothed on the other thread. Most farmers are people, and behave as humans.

Unfortunately, some don't. Some believe that by virtue of owning a tractor they are entitled to be obnoxious self-ritious jerks.



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Tom Wise

10-04-2006 04:57:55




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Nolan, 10-04-2006 04:27:27  
Wooo Hooo
I got Two Tractors. I get to be an obnoxious self-ritious jerk. HAHAHA Just kidding.
I actually have made more friends and Aquaintances out here in a little over a year and half than I did in all my life living in a neighborhood. Since I sold the sports car and Got the pickup, I get waves from everyone. I ride a Harley to work. So the commute is not really a Commute but a Nice 105 miles round trip Ride, Everyday. It has really helped alot becoming Good Friends with the Guy across the road. Riding around town with him, I have met a bunch of people, and seen places most wouldn't even know exhisted.
I'm here to stay.

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davpal

10-04-2006 00:13:59




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
If you are a nice guy you will be well liked anywhere you go. If you are a dick people won't like you in the city or the country. Sounds like you are a nice guy so you should be fine in the country or city. People just sometimes need time to accept new friends. I like having neighbors that have jobs in the city so they aren't out stealing from everybody. I can usually tell a person by their eyes., You can tell a con from an honest man if you look them right in the eyes. Hang in there, you will be just fine out there.

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Jon Holt

10-03-2006 19:51:09




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I consider myself a country person, I have lived in the country most of my life. I can get along with anyone whether they are county folks or city folks as long as they want to be flexible. We had a person from the city buy the land beside us and the first thing he did was come over and tell me that he didn't like where my garage was and wanted me to move it. Then, he went to all the neighbors and told them that they couldn't cut down any trees and proceeded to bulldoze alot of trees on his own property. That is the only kind of person that I can't get along with, but that is because he is a dumba$$, not a city slicker.

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WyoDave

10-03-2006 18:03:35




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I have new neighbors such as yourself, and get along great with them. Loan them machinery, plow their driveways, provide them with hay when they're in a bind, etc. In return they don't complain too much when I have cows on their place or drive to slow, flood the roads with irrigation water, etc. I'd say as long as you aren't complaining about them doing what they're doing they won't have a problem with you doing what you're doing, and probably are glad to have a good neighbor.
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Easy1

10-03-2006 17:47:27




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
It might help to join the local organizations - church and service organizations. I joined the local Masonic lodge. I was a little aprehensive at first, but I think it was the best thing i could have done. I have a ton of friends around our little town, more so than some lifetime residents. I can honestly say that all my neighbors have been terrific, and my lodge brothers have been outstanding. From literally knowing no one in town, I run into friends wherever I go around here. You get out of it what you put into it!

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730virgil

10-03-2006 17:41:21




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
no, we don't all feel that way . remember tho we were here first so don't try to make us fit your standards . we have had that crap with people running 4 wheelers on farmers land letting the guys cattle out trying to run us off the road then they wonder why we don't want them in country .



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Shawnspeed3

10-03-2006 17:31:29




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
well , no but , they do have their moments like everyone else. and I can sympethise with the under 35 (altho I am a young 37) slighting as well...It has taken me about 7, maybe 8 years of dealing with a couple of local farmers to get accepted into the fold. And anyhow if it wasn't for the newbys movin' out and buyin' them hay burners, where would we sell all that nice 2nd cutting for 3.50- 4,50 a bale and cleaned oats for 15 bucks a hundred???They are helping keep some of us IN buissness....Shawn

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DonN Ohio

10-03-2006 16:51:51




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
As my Army drill sergent once said,"There is always that 10% that will screw it up for every one else." That was true 40 years ago and is still true today.



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hayray

10-03-2006 16:40:27




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I live in an area where almost all the farms are gone and I have to drive around a 10 mile radius of my farm trying to get 300 acres of hay up a year, so I am always in traffic. About 1 out of 2000 people gets mad and gives me the finger and of those few that got me mad enough to stop my tractor and get out of the cab, none of them were man enough to back up their signage, so now I just totally ignore them and don't even let myself get mad. Most people are real nice and the people who live around me building the $300,000 houses are good for my business and most are hard working just like me. Always had trespassing, motorcycles and bad drivers even back when there were not many people in my area, been here my whole life. Calling them city slickers is just been derogitory and ethnocentric, which always causes you to under-estimate other people.

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Dave H (MI)

10-03-2006 16:51:07




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to hayray, 10-03-2006 16:40:27  
Ray, got any grass hay and how much you charging?
I sold all my early stuff and then this darn weather come in and it looks like I sold what I shoulda kept. Need about 40-50 more bales for winter to keep me going. Got any? I'm over by the metropark so I can pick up.



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hayray

10-04-2006 00:23:34




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Dave H (MI), 10-03-2006 16:51:07  
Oh, yeah, I have grass hay, both some second and first. I know how you feel, I can't get any hay up either, what a mess. If you are by the Park you are real close to me. You can give me a call at 248-894-2012



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Dave H (MI)

10-04-2006 07:16:10




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to hayray, 10-04-2006 00:23:34  
OK....I am gonna see what it does in the next couple of weeks. I hate to give up on it. Wife came home yesterday with a few bales from Rocky Ridge or someplace like that. Those will tide me over for a little bit here and I will see what happens. Getting a little hard to take this weather anymore.



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Bryce

10-03-2006 15:33:35




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Funny how everyone new to the nieghborhood is a "city slicker".I 've lived in the country my whole life just not at the same address.



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thejdman01

10-03-2006 16:57:58




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Bryce , 10-03-2006 15:33:35  
I agree with the bus driver 100%. Just because you lvoe hte country and want to be out in the country sometimes your kids dont(and alot of times nothing to do) and vandalize famers houses, fields etc so please for all you"country bound city slickers" keep an eye on your kids.



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Bus Driver

10-03-2006 14:31:00




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Many of the city folk who moved into my area let their children become real pain-in-the b***s. Obviously in the city, children do go to other places to have room for recreation. But my field is not a city park! They threw my bench into the pond. Knocked the windows out of my grandparent's house while my grandmother was living in a care facility. All these problems were observed while they were happening. Their father in person denied that his children had been off his property. He was told that he should then not object at all to someone shooting at the vandals since they were not his children and they were not there. He really got mad. His wife later called and said they were there and apologized. But their behavior never improved.

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Tim Shultz

10-03-2006 14:11:22




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
they don't bother me, just so long as they keep there high doller ATV's out of my hay field, a commen problem around here.. and keep there stinking sports cars under 45 MPH... witch most don't... so hey, come to think of it, I don't realy like city slickers.. but my loud truck makes them mad enough that it's worth having them around! or what would me and my buddys do for kicks? lol.. Tim Shultz

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Coloken

10-03-2006 14:09:24




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Tom, I think that some of us are just running scared. Scared that as they move in, they will bring their city ways (and regulations) with them. Have to mow the yard, can't leave those old machines out back--- This is becoming a real big item here. No pile of manure beside the barn. Broken down fence looks bad, and on and on. I think you could get along with most but it takes time.



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Nebraska Cowman

10-03-2006 14:05:03




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
No, I get along fine with my neighbors. A big share of the traffic on the highway is between two major towns or out of state. Most local people expect a certain amount of farm equipment on the road. After all, this is Nebraska. I don't blame people for wanting to get out and have a place in the country where they can have a few animals. It's human nature to want to nurture something. But for myself, if I was going to work in town, I'd live in town. I don't like to drive.

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kyhayman

10-03-2006 14:00:38




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I live in an area that has seen the population increse from 8000-24000 in the last 20 years and with the current new housing starts on the books right now it will double again to 48000 within 5 years.

To a person, I have no objection to the new folks who move in save one.... tresspassing (OMG I wish that they would keep their kids, fishing poles, atv's, and dogs at home). Of course the last person I had to run off from fishing was a long time resident :-(.

I've had to deal with the horns blowing, fingers waving, profanity, and the look of anger when it takes me 30 mins to fill up at the gas station. I always try to smile and wave back all friendly with a big grin.

Other than that I'm glad to see and meet new people, I think they are an asset to the community. With that said, I have to be honest, I am a bit standoffish, but thats not just with the new people. Just the way I am. Most of you on here know me better than the guys next door.

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farmerswife

10-03-2006 13:37:17




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Nope, we don"t all feel that way. Being a real farmer"s wife I can say. The biggest problem we have is the so called "city slickers" moving out of town and not having any respect. Not all of them do it but there are enough to make the farmers mad. This anger comes from being flipped off, yelled at, ran into the ditch because someone was in a hurry or on a cell phone. It also comes from parents who think their kids can play in a farmers crops to make paths and ramps for bikes. Then you have some that think it"s an open field and they have every right in the world to be on it. Even though it isn"t their property. We have chased 4 wheelers out of our crops ruining what we have put hard work and money into.
All I can say is kill them with kindness. When my husband and I first got married I took over trucking the grain to town so he could keep running the combine. Believe me when I say I know what you mean by a click. Them men hated seeing a woman in their territory. But I held my chin up and was out to prove that I could do this too. It didn"t take long with a few waves and smiling at them that they excepted me. And now they talk to me just like they talk to my husband. They didn"t even mind when I was setting in line waiting to dump, I would run inside and heat a bottle for the baby and feed him while I was waiting. Farmers are funny creatures. Very territorial. But they can also be your best friend and be there in times of need.

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Tom Wise

10-03-2006 13:36:18




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
The Guy Behind me likes me, I'm pretty sure, Two weeks after we moved in , I rounded up about 12 head of his cattle along with his bull and put them back in his pasture for him. After that I fixed the fence for him that was Down. So we get along pretty good. The Guy in front of me and I get along real Good. I fixed his tractor twice and Pulled his gator out of his pond for him. We go Fishing alot now. Now there is this one guy down the road that Always gives me a Sideways look. Although I have heard he was not all there. I believe it. Thanks for the input. I'm not paranoid or sensitive. Just curious. They way I see it. If ya like me Fine. If not. I got the special wave for ya LOL
Only if the friendly Wave doesn't work. I haven't washed my pickup in 8 months tryin no to look like a newby

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barnrat

10-03-2006 13:26:39




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Farmers under the age of 35 seem to get the same treatment as "city slickers". I feel your pain.



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JohnNoregon

10-03-2006 13:18:32




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Tom if you stay long enough you too will be related to a lot of people dont worry about and just enjoy the country and if a tractor gets in you way go around him and wave without your finger my .02 JohnNoregon



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Dan-IA

10-03-2006 13:16:23




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
Everybody's related. Hrmph, sounds like my nearest little town! There's a couple guys that made their nest egg and retired early a couple miles out of town on the north side. Don't know nothin' about farming, they bought a 1066 to run a snowblower but other people keep their lanes clear so they've never had to use it. They fit right in just fine.

So where am I going with this? Well, let me say it this way. I wouldn't walk into a crowded movie theater and scream 'fire'. Likewise, it probably wasn't smart to go to a site that's got a high probability of being mostly farmers, and then complain about a farmer blocking traffic. Hey, if you don't want to be eaten, stay out of the hungry bear's den!

So, no. But you're always playing with fire when you use that dirty word "all", thereby making sweeping generalizations.

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Matt from CT

10-03-2006 13:11:23




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-03-2006 13:04:58  
I reckon it's really a regional, local, even personal thing...

I'm from New England where we're not known for being the most gregariously friendly folks. And newcomers = less then three generations. Even though we're grossly outnumbered nowadays.

But as I get into the small towns north of the middle of NH/ME and people just start waving at you just since you're driving down the road...what a wonderful small town (even if it freaks me out a little...)

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edchainsaw

10-03-2006 19:42:00




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Matt from CT, 10-03-2006 13:11:23  
I dont dislike the people but I do not apriciate what comes with them or because of them.

1. when they come out here they tend to overpay for ground causing unrealistic prices for farmland. this causes our property taxes to be raised

2. they demand CITY TYPE services also increasing our property taxes.

3. Some feel if they are your friends they have free run of your "waste" or Hunting property and drive where they take a notion when they do.

4. Some "EXPECT" yes expect you to HAVE what they need, when they need it , and cant understand why your charging them what you do for what they need..

5. some dont really want to be part of the comunnity they've moved into---some to the extent of not sending their children to the local school or demanding the same programs they left in town-- with out the $$ in the local school to do it (locally its football-- we all would like to have it but you cant get that money off trees every year)

I love the people.. some of my best friends are "city slickers" but as a wise old man in the neighbor hood told my old ag teacher: He wouldnt be part of the cummunity for 35yrs...

he'd seen it :)

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Tom Wise

10-04-2006 06:19:55




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to edchainsaw, 10-03-2006 19:42:00  
I had a Question about this one.

3. Some feel if they are your friends they have free run of your "waste" or Hunting property and drive where they take a notion when they do.

Are you refering to property that you can't work or waste as in Old steel, old dead tractor, car, truck or what ever?

I have wondered if there was some sort of rule about asking if something was for sale. I know just because its not used , doesn't mean its not wanted by the owner. And I guess if he wanted to sell it, it would have a for sale sign on it. What do yall think. Say you have an old truck or Squeeze chute sittin in some tall grass, and someone comes up and says , You wanna sell that?
Is that rude? or ok?

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B-maniac

10-03-2006 19:28:59




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Matt from CT, 10-03-2006 13:11:23  
I agree with a couple of the other posts.The biggest problem is the parents that bring a bunch of undiciplined kids to the country and let them go,like it's one big amusement park. I say,if that's what any body has in mind,then yes,stay in the city. If not,just be a good neighbor and all's well. As far as that "parenting" issue,or lack of it,there isn't enough room on this forum to open that can of worms.Guess that's just one of the downfalls of having a free country!

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Dakotaclassiccycle

10-04-2006 01:59:17




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to B-maniac, 10-03-2006 19:28:59  
dont mind em as long as..... ....

They keep there kids on a leash

4 wheelers out of my yard (4 wheelers arent just for fields anymore!)

dont demand all these stupid unnessacary tax increasing things like running water, sewers and paved roads.

hunting on my land like its open season year round

just some respect would be nice, i will say that talking on cell phones is not as bad as you might thing. got hit last year by a geo while on my IH M , that insurance paid for me enough to buy 2 ms and a dc case (thanks progressive)

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Tom Wise

10-04-2006 05:09:05




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Dakotaclassiccycle, 10-04-2006 01:59:17  
My Kids and toys are not a problem. I and my kids don't go on anyones property with out permission from the owners. Even with open invitations I still will ask before fishing my neighbors pond. And he just looks as me and says, Why you asking. I already told you it was ok. I try not to borrow stuff all the time. If I have to borrow it more than two times. I'll just buy one for myself. If I must borrow, I will try to find something I can do for them. Like fix what ever it is I want to borrow. It makes me feel better. I don't like to Owe someone.
At 43 I am gettin alittle tired of tryin to prove to people that I'm ok and you can trust me. Funny though
With my friend Ernie. Word is gettin out. :)
I don't complain about much, Even when one of my nearby neighbors had a Propane powered Crow scaring Cannon Malfuntions and Darn near Burned down my house. I am tempted to Shoot the Spot lights out of the bus barn. Them things are just too brite.

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Ken Macfarlane

10-04-2006 07:13:45




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 Re: Do All REAL Farmers feel that way in reply to Tom Wise, 10-04-2006 05:09:05  
My biggest problem with newcomers is they always get the power company to hook up those damn street/yard lights at their house. No consideration of others, they stay on all bloody night making the stars hard to see, spoiling any moon lit evenings, and making it just bright enough on the neighbour properties for people to sneak around without needing a flashlight that others can easily see.

Just a vent. Other than that most are great people, just not educated to rural ways yet.

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