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IA Roy

10-02-2006 20:19:21

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Is is that time of year again? Friday night I followed a combine with a grain table wide enough to tickle the grass on both sides of the road at the same time. He had an escort? of a pickup with flashers on. This morning my wife had to get almost in the ditch meeting 2 more heading her way. Tonight coming home from work on a hilly blacktop I followed another with the same setup but no escort. He pulled off partly to let one car meet him, but shortly after that he didn't bother. Since he was stopped, I thought he might let me and 4 other vehicles pass him, but I was wrong. We followed him at least another half mile up and down several hills. He was off on the shoulder and about 6' over the center line of the road and the oncoming car had to get way off on the shoulder. I think in this state there is no limit on agricultural machinery width, but they are required to yield one half of the roadway. What are your opinions. I do know that header carriers are available to haul the headers. Are these people above the law, or what? A friend of mine hit a combine head on back in 1970 and demolished her dad's car and the grain table. It was a wonder that she wasn't hurt. And that was only a 15' grain table as was most popular back then. Or are these guys so lazy that they are willing to risk someone else's life to save a little time in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

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Leland

10-04-2006 17:02:50

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Around cent ILL you don't see guys roading combines with heads very often the state started writing tickets for blocking roads anything over 6 rows goes on a head cart .

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10-04-2006 15:52:40

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Sometimes when people cut corners to save time and money they end up on the short end of the stick. For example: About 10-15 years ago a local farmer was headed down a 4-lane U.S. highway at dusk on a 40xx JD with 12 ft. of toolbar on the 3-pt. and no lights. He got into the passing lane to turn left across the median and onto the frontage road on the other side. An 18-
wheeler was passing him in the right lane when a compact car got into the left lane to pass the semi. The little cars" driver never saw the tractor due to the tractor having no lights, speed differences involved and the angles of sight of the truck and passing car. The car hit one end of the toolbar and turned the tractor over in the median, killing the farmer. No one else was seriously injured. No lights, no ROPS, big difference in speeds and a toolbars" leverage made the tractor the unlikely loser. Sad tale....but true.

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hogman_2002

10-04-2006 10:25:37

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I agree if you have a wide header, you should take it off. Every time we move our combines, theres always some moron passing up a hill or around a blind corner. This year we were moving our 7700, 7720 and grain cart all at the same time. After going up a hill a few cars passed us. Then as we started going up another I was passed by a pickup that was escorting a wide load. When I looked in my mirror I could see a truck carrying 2 huge fiberglass tanks starting to pass the grain cart. It took him atleast a minute to finally get around all of us. Luckly, we never met anyone coming in the other lane. If we would've, I would have been screwed be cause there was a pretty good drop off on both sides of the road. Needless to say that truckdriver got the finger from me. All he had to do is wait about 3 minutes to get to an open spot in the road so he could've passed safely. I also hate pulling in the ditch to let anyone pass. You never know when you will run over a board that may have some nails in it and either get a flat or ruin a $1000 tire.

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paul

10-04-2006 09:32:54

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

> Or are these guys so lazy that they are willing to risk someone else's life to save a little time in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

Farming is tough, hard, dusty work. All day long.

That line problably got you in trouble.

Walk a mile in some one else's shoes before you call them lazy.

When you are out on the road in a big huge machine going 15 mph, and you see _many_ idiots doing very dangerous moves getting around you so they can save 2 minutes of time..... .

I think all of us farmers know of someone who was sued or wrecked by a really bad driver. If you can't see a combine on the orad, how can you possibly be driving safely????

Well, you are getting the rath of our side of the story.

Folks on 10 acres don't have a clue what farming is all about, no spray, no dust, no smell, taxes need to go up to pave roads, need water districts put in so the fool doesn't have to dig his own well, and so on. Generalizations - but out of 10 people who move onto a little plot of land, you'll run into that problem more than once. And once is all it takes to ruin the neighborhood.

--->Paul

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MN Bob

10-04-2006 09:13:18

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

IA Roy; I apoligize for the offensive post below. I know better, was raised better and have no excuse. I do get frustrated at times and something triggered that and I lost it. Sorry again. I admitted to moving equipment on the road, and I have. But it is seldom and I do try to give the right of way and move over so cars can pass. If it is of any consolation, I have suffered more from the writing than anyone from the reading of it. I would like to post this from scripture without offending anyone. "As the test of what the potter molds is in the furnace, so in his conversation is the test of a man". Bob

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IA Roy

10-04-2006 21:00:07

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to MN Bob, 10-04-2006 09:13:18

Mn Bob Don't take it personal. I enjoy your replies to many subjects.
I realize now that I should have kept my opinions to myself. I should not have mentioned the word lazy. I remember the long hours day after day doing what it took to get the job done. However I do wonder why it is necessary to get the harvest done by the 3rd week of October. I remember 35 years ago feeling good being done before Thanksgiving.
Last year I came over a hill on a 32' wide blacktop and meet a combine with a 12 row corn head on it. There was no warning vehicle and the hill had enough fall off that there was minimal visibility and stopping distance. This is on a road that the 18 wheelers (many farmer owned) go in excess of 60 mph. It makes me want to stop and park my car on my side of the road and walk away and let the other person deal with the problem. However My upbringing prevents me from doing this. From some of the replies that came back to me, I wonder what other laws and rules are made to be ignored by those who don't think that they apply to them. Again my apologies to those who are innocent.

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jiskies2

10-03-2006 21:01:27

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

heck, it's a tight squeeze taking a 9' ft haybine on the road here in ny!!! in fact, scrapped the guardrail on the corner this fall...first time for that.

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Eric SEI

10-03-2006 20:35:00

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

When the county paved our road so the developers could ruin the area they filled in the ditch in order to widen the road to 20 feet. That is the right of way on many of our county roads here in SE Indiana. You try moving some of that large equipment here without folding or trailering traffic will be only part of your problem. Forget grass, trees and fences will be in your way and if you meet someone there will be a problem.

Some roads are good, some are very narrow and we are over run with idiots that think that since they aren't in Cincinnati anymore rules don't apply. Everybody beware!

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EVILBOWEVIEL

10-03-2006 11:12:18

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I firmly believe there are inconsiderate farmers along with a bunch of inconsiderate care drivers. Headers need to come off of combines unless 4 row or smaller or 15' or smaller.
Have been moving farm equipment on the road since 12 years old and had a lot of incondsiderate drivers try to run me off the road also have been out driving and met very inconsiderate farmers that were too important to take the head off of the combine to move. Reading the responses below appears like quite a few on this board who obvisly are too important to associate with the rest of us who grew up in the country on farms and whose familys strech back generations on the farm.
Condsideration goes both ways.
Ron

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730virgil

10-03-2006 10:50:16

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

it works both ways . we have some guys near here who have told hired hands no way no how do you pull off of road to let cars trucks past you they can wait . they also don't like to use head transports to drop head when they move combines. these guys give everyone else a black eye who tries to do the best thing . i was pulling manure spreader when some moron tried to pass me .i signaled for a left turn a long way back as i had seen this guy in mirror i guess that amber light is on tractor for looks or something . any way he took to ditch to not hit me and didn't slow down . boss saw whole thing happen when he went to get mail in neither of us knew way he didn't crash . these people who out to country because they like rural charm should STAY in town as most of them try to ram thier standards down us rfd tpyes throats . where do think the charm comes from ?

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85_Ranger4x4

10-03-2006 10:38:59

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

A couple years ago a family crested a hill with virtually no shoulders to find a combine with a grain head on it taking up both lanes coming at them, and it proceded to remove the cab from the car, I don't think anyone survived in the car. It would have been prevented if the farmer removed the head like he should have, there is nothing the people in the car could have done to avoid it other than drive off into the steep ditch and take their chances in that. Just because they are farmers doesn't mean the roads belong to them. On the flipside though, people also seem to get stupid when following anything being towed, even at the speed limit.

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IA Roy

10-03-2006 10:19:17

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Sorry I stepped on so many toes. I do not drive a Beemer but an old Escort pushing 200,000 miles. I was brought up on a grain and livestock farm and respect a high percentage of farmers. I know where food comes from. I don"t complain about the hog farmers spreading manure or the spring tillage well into the night or the harvesting round the clock. I feel that it is a tradeoff to living in the country. It is a fact of rural life. I try to be considerate and ask others to do the same. I work for a manufacturing company that makes oversize vehicles that are required to be hauled by special permitted haulers. I worked for another manufacturer for the last 15 years making livestock equipment. I am glad that some of you regulars have the courage to side with me. I am sorry a few of you have so much hate for my kind! Like I said try to be courteous and maybe it will come back to you.

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Josh in Pa

10-03-2006 10:52:42

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-03-2006 10:19:17

I am a farmer but I agree with you. Farmers need to drive on the roads, and a combine or tractor is slow and takes up a lot of space. But endagering other people to get your job done a little quicker is unacceptable. Take the head off the combine.
Josh

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shawnspeed3

10-03-2006 09:30:27

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

just to add to Ohio mike, a local farm family about lost it all to a driver that was drunk and speeding,that swerved to miss the tractor/disc that he was hauling on a rual road ,well within the law, he was a little ahead of his time because he had yellow flashers on all his equipment before it was manditory. (15 + yrs ago) any how , when she swerved , ste truck slid into the fold up disc sideways , decapitating the passenger, her husband....even though she was drunk..and speeding...she sued... and won...the family no longer farms ,and lost about 1/2 their farm in the settlement.I do not agree that the farmer had any fault in the accident...but it was a jury that gave the settlement , not me . Fellow farmers just be aware that a little preventitive caution now could save the farm later..and to the transplanted suburbanites...have some patience, harvest will be over soon , and you will still be alive. Shawn

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dr.sportster

10-03-2006 09:23:49

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

He was on a mission.When your on a mission all else is secondary to the mission.

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Bubbatized

10-03-2006 09:08:07

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Why just move yourself someplace else then? Or go live with your buddies Hugo and Fidel?

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Ford Man

10-03-2006 09:05:16

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

We are renting a house in the country. Our "inconsiderate farmer" neighbor spread chicken manure on his fields last week.

It will take your breath away !!!

It really stinks but seriously , we are just getting a good laugh form all of this !

All the rest of the folks we know down the road have been having fun picking on us about how bad it stinks when they ride by the house !

We may be getting a kick out of this but the shame is that there are a lot of people who move out to the country and expect the farmers to change to suit them.

We are building a house and should be moving soon so we will miss the smell next year but our neighbors at the new house are farmers so we will still have plenty of farm smells but hopefully no more of the chicken manure !!

We are building on ancestoral land and I have known our neighbors my whole life and would never ask or expect them to change to suit me.They are some of the best people in the world.

I kinda figure that when you want to move to the country you had better be ready for everything !

Just my .02 worth..

Ford Man

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10-03-2006 08:52:51

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

As the saying goes, if you do not like the way farmers drive, stay off their roads, we were there long before the yuppies that wanted a little farm moved out there. These guys are on the road only about 30 days a year, they are ones who provide the food you eat, so, in my opinion, you are in the wrong place to be complaining about the farmers on the roads. I was born and raised around farms, and they are the ones who normally will do anything for anyone, without any rewards, nothing!!! And you have the nerve to complain about them, something wrong here!!!
We had a newby (moved in about 3 weeks ago)run out in our field last weekend, she had to be going 60-70MPH down a rural country road, did not see a sharp curve that has been there for as long as dirt, then went airborn and ended up about 300 feet out. Do these people not realize these roads are not made for high spoeeds, they are rural low speed roads to get from point A to point B.

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26Red

10-03-2006 07:43:37

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I was flat towing a Farmall MD home from the scrap yard, flashers on and slow moving vehicle sign on the tractor... the road was flat, and the cars stacked up behind me... idiots would not pass me until I pulled over and stopped on a field approach.... (I guess the hole 8ft I was taking up was too much!)I guess some people just have tunnel vision...and now common sense..

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bradk

10-03-2006 07:43:12

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I think you picked the wrong web site to complain about farmers!There must be some yuppie site to better soothe your pain.
You only have to deal with us "inconsiderate farmers" about a month every year,but we have to deal with poor drivers all year long.~brad

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the Unforgiven

10-03-2006 07:18:55

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Yeah it is a bit of a hassle. In my opinion, if you are going very far, you should remove the header and haul it. The up and coming hassle here is loading semi trucks on the road instead of pulling into the field to load. My feeling is if your a big enough boy to run your own operation you should be responsible enough to do it on you own property. And I must admit that I have done it myself when it was too wet to get the trucks in and out, but not as standard procedure. The equipment has outgrown the roadways. BUT, if you are the move to the country and whine about everything that doesn't fit your vision of your perfect little world type, I would like to be the first to tell you to screw off.

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RustyFarmall

10-03-2006 07:11:43

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

It works both ways. Several times in the last couple of years I have transported overwidth farm machinery on the highway, and there are always several places along the road where other drivers have to be content with just following, but what really gets to me is when the road widens, there are no hills for several miles, I pull over as far as I can which opens up the oncoming lane completely, there is no oncoming traffic, and the drivers who have been following for several miles STILL WON'T PASS ME!!

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trw

10-03-2006 06:57:49

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I am one of those "inconsiderate farmers". I hate moving machinery as much as you hate having me on the road. It is just the way things are in the summer. You stated that you followed this combine for at least a half-mile up and down several hills. If there were several hills in a half mile, I don't think I would have let you pass either. It will take you a while to get around me and if there were "several" hills, you would have had to pass going up a hill. It would be safer for you to be behind me than beside me. You want us to take the 15 minutes to take our header off our combine and another 15 minutes to put it back on, in a time of year that can cost us several hundred dollars an hour, and all you were probably in a hurry to get to home to was to eat supper. This guy was probably in the field well before you got up and was going to another field and was going to be at that field well after you are tucked away nicely in bed. I pull over as quickly as it is safe to let someone pass. I know some don't. Don't say we are all the same. We hate to have you behind us as much or more as you hate to be there. Have some PATIENCE!! I was moving my combine down a well traveled highway several years ago. NO header, a wide road with large shoulders, over to the right as far as possible, giving the traffic behind me plenty of room to pass, when someone passed me and gave me the #1 sign with his middle finger. To this day, I don't know what I did wrong. I wish I could have been faster to run him down and find out. His license plate was to muddy to get a number. Once again, we hate to be moving on the roads, and you hate to see us moving, but have a little patience and the harvest will soon be over and you can go back to 80 MPH on the roads!!! I'm sorry, I just had to vent my feelings!

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MN Bob

10-03-2006 06:40:55

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

IA Roy; I confess, I have driven a combine with the head on the road, and pulled moco's, balers, plows etc on the blacktop. Of course, unlike some I always (well almost) feel sorry for the guy in the Beamer or his lady in the Volvo that cant get around me at the 80 MPH the privledged are allowed to drive at vs 55 for the rest of us. I am sure sure that when you bought the 10 acre estate in the country where you commune with nature you never expected to be inconveninced by the inconsiderate slops who have been there for generations ecking out a living driving fords and cheverolets, used at that. I suppose you no longer consider us to be the quaint rural yokels, but consider us to be in inconsiderate, incorregible *&%$#@ that get in your way. PLEASE, forgive us. Your (still) friendly local yokel; Bob

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Hard Knocks

10-03-2006 06:07:28

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Didn't you realize you were moving into farming country when moved there? Best answer would be for surburban types that want to build in farming areas to have to sign a waiver or notice that yes they realize that this is a farming area and that yes manure will be spread,equipment will be moved on the road etc etc.

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dhermesc

10-03-2006 06:54:08

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Hard Knocks, 10-03-2006 06:07:28

I agree, the farmer was probably ticked off that some inconsiderate suburbanite was blinding him from behind with their hibeams. Next time you feel the heat rising, remember that his taxes probably paid for the road.

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Doug in IL

10-03-2006 06:00:55

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

The farmers own the roads. I don't know about Iowa, but in IL. the farmers/landowners literally own many of the roads. Most were set up in the 1800's as "farm to market" roads. The landowners granted what are basically easements, for the road right of ways. The landowner still "owns" the road right of way and pays real estate taxes on that land each and every year. If your land is only on one side of the road right of way, you own to the center of the roadway. If your land is on both sides of the roadway, you own the whole road. Real estate taxes since the mid 1800's on all those roads has added up to a chuck of change. And those rotten farmers have paid for 150 years for you to drive on "their" roads! Every year I pay real estate taxes on 1 3/4 miles of road right of way. And Illinois real estate taxes are NOT cheap! I keep that in mind when I move my equipment. The farmers are only on "their" roads, in significant numbers, about 2 months out of the year. I would think motorists in agricultural areas could show just a little bit of patience. After all, the only reason a lot of roads are even in place is because of the farmers.

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Jimmy King

10-03-2006 05:58:32

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Well he could have pulled over to the right real far and ran over something ruined a $500 tire. Would you have stopped and offered to pay for it I doubt it. The next time you set down to eat say a short prayer for him, he doesn"t have a steady paycheck, he depends on the weather, markets, and a lot of help from God to feed his family.

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kyhayman

10-03-2006 17:38:37

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Jimmy King, 10-03-2006 05:58:32

Almost 20 years ago I tried to get way over to let some guy I was meeting pass me. One lane county road, I had a gooseneck with a 5600 ford on it. Found the rebar he in the ditch he had put there to keep atv's out of his hunting preserve. Got all 4 tires on the right side.

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souNdguy

10-03-2006 05:50:20

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Cosidering that you have to eat.. I'd think you might be a little more sympathetic to the person growing the food and working hard at it, and probably in the end.. making less than a part timer at a jiffy store with no high school education.

If ya don't like it, you can always move... perhaps to another country???

Soundguy

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Nolan

10-03-2006 05:49:14

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Lucky you, it wasn't that far you had to follow him. I ended up in a huge line of traffic following one for the better part of a hundred miles on the eastern shore a few months ago. He wasn't giving room to anyone. When the road opened up to three lanes that would allow passing, he'd center his rig in it to block everyone, or veere back and forth to prevent it. When I finally was able to pass him, he was giving folks the finger and such.

Yes, the head should be removed when transporting on roads. But there is the matter of how far you're transporting. Going from one field to the next is one is usually a quick hop. Crossing towns is not.

To all those in this thread proclaiming a farmers right to tie up traffic, may it be your kid that's dying waiting for the ambulance that can't there because of a farmer behaving like a jerk on the public roads.

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jddriver

10-03-2006 05:26:18

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I think peaple like you would gripe if you where behind a tractor in a single lane with lots of room to pass.I wont go any farther Steve

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WyoDave

10-03-2006 05:08:29

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Have you ever tried to move a big piece of machinery from one field to another all the while trying to get over for cars coming from both directions? Untill you have give the guys that are doing it a break. Thats the price you pay for living in the country. If it bothers you that bad, maybe you should move closer to work where its safer.
David

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RustyFarmall

10-03-2006 04:58:46

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I agree That he should have removed the head and transported it seperately, but sometimes that is not possible, and sometimes even removing the head would not have helped. The majority of the roads just south of me in Missouri, are so narrow that it is a real challenge to drive a combine without a head. Transporting the head on a trailer behind a pick-up truck is also a real challenge.

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IaGary

10-03-2006 04:52:13

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Heres my opinion.

I don't come to your place of work and tell you to get out of the way so that I can hurry home and get to supper.

If you don't want to fight the farm equipment move back into town. I won't travel there.

I try to allow room to pass with my 15' head.
But when I pull to the side as far as I can and they still don't pass why should I try to let them pass.

I've farmed in the same area for 32 years and never met a car 25 years ago. But now I can't get on the road without waiting for 3or4 cars.

Were just out here trying to make a few bucks and to feed the hungry and we will be out of your way in about a month or so.

So just slow down a little and we will try to let you thru.

Not picking on anyone, just talking in general.

Gary

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Mike M

10-03-2006 04:28:29

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

The guys in Ohio are getting into that BIG equipment now and even without a header those new JD combines of his take up the complete road.

I just usually follow along as most of the time they will turn off. I have more trouble with the Amish and their buggys hogging the road.

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Nebraska Cowman

10-03-2006 04:20:17

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

I have to travel on a major highway and try to stay out of the way but it's not always possable. I keep over on the shoulder and traffic can either go around or wait. I can't pull clear off in the ditch for every vehicle that comes up behind me. Whats the deal that the guy in the car is in such a big hurry?

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Bob Da. (La)

10-03-2006 04:19:44

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Yes,it is that time of year. I feel for the farmers as they feed us and much of the world, and get very little in return for it. Please give them a break and try to help instead of complaigning. God Bless. Bob Da. (La)

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John M

10-03-2006 03:34:30

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Not to be a smarta$$ but would you rather him be moving it during the day when there is more traffic, and more of a possiblity of some "inconsiderate driver" to hit him. Come on, the man is trying to make a living, remember thats where you from comes from buddy! As far as being lazy, well time is money, and when you have bills to pay you do what you have to.

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Allan In NE

10-03-2006 03:05:48

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Yep, know what ya mean.

Allan

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cat(non-reserved)

10-03-2006 09:10:38

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Allan In NE, 10-03-2006 03:05:48

Lucky to find a red one that runs to pull the rest up the hill.

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Rich Va

10-03-2006 03:11:52

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Allan In NE, 10-03-2006 03:05:48

Hey Allen,are you in that picture driving red tractor?

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Allan In NE

10-03-2006 03:14:25

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Rich Va, 10-03-2006 03:11:52

Not me; just not into that sort of thing. :>)

Allan

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James2

10-02-2006 21:44:40

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Yes the same thing occasionally happens here, they move 25 ft and 30 ft platform heads without taking them off. Twelve row corn head gives the same problem. They think they are just too important and busy. In this area, moving an attached 20 ft platform is normal, although not many have this small of a head. Likewise, eight row corn heads are generally OK. I bought a twenty ft drill and it is not easy to get around. Should have bought a 15 ft

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the tractor vet

10-02-2006 20:34:03

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to IA Roy, 10-02-2006 20:19:21

Well around here if the head is over 13 foot thenyou have to remove it and haul it on a cart and a 6 row narrow planter is as wide as ya dare run down the road . We do have one guy that farms ground down here that has the largets John Deere Combine made with straddel duals that takes from berm to berm with just the base unit on the side roads and there are several bridges that he can not go thru and has to go four miles out around each of them . One of these days there is going to be a real bad wreck because of him he has hired morons working for him and they are the ones running this equipment that would work well out in western Ind. Ill . Iowa NE. but not here in eastern Ohio . Makes me nervise running the old 410 Massey down the side roads and then there is the main state road and here ya take your life in your hands even with and escort as the nut case people will pass ya on a double yellow on a blind curve or even if you are signaling a left hand turn and you are already turing and across the center line they will do ditch cleaning just to get around ya and give ya the finger as they are in the ditch as if what nerve for you to make a left turn in ft. of them . And with the quick tach heads it only takes a couple min. to take one off and put it back on by yourself.

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Ohio Mike

10-03-2006 08:53:12

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to the tractor vet, 10-02-2006 20:34:03

I have driven tractors and equipment on roadways for many years. I have hauled a lot of equipment and seen many accidents. Almost 100% of the time the accident was caused because of being in too big of a hurry to put safety first. Examples, driving 60 on roads that are known to be traveled by larger slower equipment. Pass no matter where. GOT TO GO, CAN'T WAIT !!!! You better remember one thing and that is YOU'LL SLOW DOWN AT YOUR FUNERAL ! As for the equipment operators, farmers ect. being an a$$ just to prove you can doesn,t prove anything except your an a$$. We need to be the better person and do all we can to be sure someone doesn't get hurt or killed because of someone being stupid. This subject rattles my chain real big time because I know of innocent people and young children that have been hurt and killed just because some fool wanted to prove HIS point or just being stupid. By the way MR. NEED FOR SPEED , get out of my way Mr. farmer. One of our hired hands was hit head on while on one of the tractors. He was on a gravel road when the guy lost control due to SPEEDING, came left of center and hit the tractor. I guess if we was'nt so inconsiderate we would'nt have been on that road.

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B-maniac

10-03-2006 20:03:42

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to Ohio Mike, 10-03-2006 08:53:12

Both sides have ligitimate complaints. In our area it is NOT the "farmers" that are the problem. It is the "corporations" that lease the biggest new equipment every year and hire minimum wage "idiots" that can't get a job anywhere else and put them behind the wheel of these huge machines. Yes, they are too lazy to trailer their headers and no they don't give a damn about anything accept getting to the next field so they can be relieved by the next idiot,so they can get to the party that night on time. I'm sorry,but all too often it is not the true "farmers" that cause these problems.

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1206SWMO

10-03-2006 22:47:02

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Re: Inconsiderate? Farmers in reply to B-maniac, 10-03-2006 20:03:42

I agree.Both sides have legitmate complaints.I'm both a factory worker and a farmer.When I move wide machinery I get over the first place I can and let people get by.I would never go over a mile without pulling over.I dont want people late to work on account of me.

I've followed fellow farmers that are real considerate and a few that arent very considerate.Most pull over and let traffic by every mile or less but some never look back and will drive 5-6 miles without ever once pulling over.They could care less if traffic is all backed up.

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