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O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove.

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frankiee

09-24-2006 06:40:44




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I have to move my dads stove a bit and it will be a couple feet offset from the chimney.
My question is: should I go up from stove then a 90 degree elbow to run horizontal a couple feet then another 90 degree elbow heading straight up the chimney?
OR
Can I use two 45 degree elbows and just go up to the main chiminey at an angle?
I usually see just 45 degree angle configurations and I was wondering if it affects how the smoke will flow up the pipes as well as the heat flow.
It is a wood stove.
Thanks

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Ken L.

09-24-2006 13:57:15




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to frankiee, 09-24-2006 06:40:44  
The house that I grew up in had a stove that was wood fueled on one end for heat in the kitchen and the oven and burners were electric. The pipe went up out of the stove until it was about 11/2 ft from the ceiling, made a 90 went about eight ft to the chimney then made another 90 into the chimney. I remember it being that way for at least thirty years and my mother said that it had been that way as long as she remebered. never had any problems. I do remember though that every Sat. morning, the stove was let to burn out and the pipes were cleaned.

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Ken L.

09-24-2006 13:58:37




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to Ken L., 09-24-2006 13:57:15  
I made a mistake, we cleaned those pipes every other Sat.



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T_Bone

09-24-2006 11:55:14




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to frankiee, 09-24-2006 06:40:44  
Hi Frankiee,

Never run any type of vent at 90º. Why?

On wood stoves it would allow ash to collect in the low point of the stack. Lye can be made from wood ash. You put down news paper in a "V" box then add wood ash then add water and then leach the lye water off. Evaporate the water to make lye crystals. Lye is a very corrosive chemmical that will eat most metals.

All vents make condensastion as they vent gass. That is your water source. In other fuel type vents we can make other chemicals from the same process.

2) As the vent direction is turned towards horizontal the natural draw thru the vent slows the volicity of the gas. Depending on the vent usage, one could expect turblent flow inside the stack. The more tuberlant the flow is, the less gas that is exhausted.

Adjustable 90º EL's are they way to go as you can make a infinite number of angles by adjusting the elbows. You may/will also need a short piece of straight pipe.

Be careful while getting the elbows to pre-fit adjusted as if you hit a snag and twist them too far/hard they can/will snap apart. They will go back together with patients. There put together like a big screw. At each seam you bend one out and one in at the 180º points, screw together then set the turnout flat with a hammer and dolly.

On a wood stove (this excludes any other fuel type) the connection is the upper connection always slips inside the lower connection. This keeps the liquid cerosote inside the stack to return to the fire box and not leak out at the joints. Cerosote is highly flamable and in fact can be used to make turpintine as most pitch can be used.

All joints must have no less than three screws attaching the joints together.

After installing/changing any vent, take a small piece of news paper and set it on fire to check the new vent for proper draw. If it checks well use a larger piece and with a final rolled up full sheet. Pay attention to each connection joint for leakage. Don't mistake a cold stack draw for a vent problem.

All vents must extend 2ft above anything 10ft horizontal away on the roof. This keeps the vent from sucking a back draft or reversing stack gas flow.

Any vent penetration thru another wall/roof requires a thimbil made to code. Most fires that burn down homes start at this joint so don't cheat the thimbil man.

There's a whole bunch of codes between the thimbil and roof penetration that can NOT be covered here. There's not one code that you can skimp on.

Watch your wood stove and stack clearance to combustables. Every stove is different.

T_Bone

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Matt Kane

09-24-2006 09:04:30




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to frankiee, 09-24-2006 06:40:44  
I would do no more than 1- 90 degree elbow. Use adjustable 45"s if you can. That way you dont reduce the draft too much.



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Nebraska Cowman

09-24-2006 06:59:43




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to frankiee, 09-24-2006 06:40:44  
yeah, if it's only off a couple feet I'd probably opt for the angled run. I've used both and had my cookstove run flat clear across the room at one time. the smoke don't seem to care as the height of the chimney will create the draw.



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RustyFarmall

09-24-2006 06:54:23




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 Re: O/T: Installing stove pipes for wood stove. in reply to frankiee, 09-24-2006 06:40:44  
I haven't heated with wood for several years now but when I did I found that running the stove pipe upward at an angle seemed to work better than the other way. I used the adjustable elbows. I could maintain a much straighter run that way.



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