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napaguy

09-11-2006 19:13:18




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i work at a napa store and am looking for ways to improve our sales. what is it that you do or don't like about your local napa store? price, availability of parts, good service, bad service, etc. please don't mention any names, i could be the bad guy!!thanks for the responses,napaguy.




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Davis In SC

09-16-2006 20:41:44




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I guess I am too negative , here is my take on the auto parts business... There is a lot more profit selling clear tail light lenses for the drug dealer's Lexus, than there is in selling a set of points for an 8N to the local hobby farmer.. The guys on the board of directors demand profits, so the big-profit items get all the attention... It Sux, but it is the truth...



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77 shovelhead

09-16-2006 20:20:02




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
My local NAPA store was my first choice. The guys there KNEW their stuff, they were sharp, been there a few years and could talk on the phone and help customers at the counter at the same time. They would even call Car Quest down the road if they didn"t have what I needed. Then I go in one day and POOF. Those guys are gone. The shelves, counters and products have all been rearranged. The new guy keeps calling me Buddy. They don"t know crap from shinola.
WHAT HAPPENED? On the good side, the parts quality has slipped, but not as bad as CHINA ZONE. I could go on but it seems to me this store has changed owners or managers and they believe they have a better idea. And like most companies in America it’s going to the dump.

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Eric SEI

09-16-2006 19:07:54




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
The last time I went to the NAPA store in Lawrenceburg, IN I left without talking to anyone because the tobacco smoke was so thick that I couldn"t breath. I haven"t tried them again in the last 2 years.



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Leland

09-12-2006 20:37:19




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Hardly set foot in one prices are just to darn high at least were I live they are .



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RayP(MI)

09-12-2006 17:56:16




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I shop at a NAPA where the counter guys are a father & son team. To the best of my knowledge that"s all they have ever done. Grandfather origionally started the NAPA businses. Dang, these guys are good, even with my non-standard parts needs. My biggest complaint is the "I"ll have it in the morning," problem - seems that no matter what the part is, they normally don"t stock "em, or they"re temporarily out of stock. In all truth, they have a massive part inventory, just not what I need!

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Gus

09-12-2006 16:48:09




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I live 1/2 way between two Napa stores. I always try to go the same one. Both are good but one stocks much more and the counter guys are more friendly/ helpful. There are lots of other parts stores not too much farther away, but they seem to cater more to add on junk and cheaper parts. Napa gets my business even if it costs a little more. Keep up the good work. Gus



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Dean Barker

09-12-2006 12:59:55




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
NAPA years ago used to have all quality parts. Then they stopped buying Timken bearings. Lately their fuel pumps, alternators, and starters will hardly get thru the warranty. Our local NAPA store is the best, but the parts quality needs to be looked at.



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Paul from MN

09-12-2006 09:38:52




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Can't say enough good about the guys at the NAPA in Rosemount, MN. They know their stuff, eager to help, fair prices. If they are closed, my project stops until they open the next day. There are parts stores in the area who are closer to me and have longer hours, but they either don't have what I need, or it is to expensive, or junk.



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HDM

09-12-2006 11:02:40




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to Paul from MN, 09-12-2006 09:38:52  
You got that right. Rosemount guys know their stuff. Got me out of a real pickle last year when my truck was DOA on a jobsite.

But the NAPA closer to me in a western suburb bites. I quit going there a few years ago. They made me feel like I wasn't one of their "in" crowd or didn't have what I needed. They always had the part at their "warehouse". So I would just go to the big store myself or somewhere else.

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Stinky Cheese

09-12-2006 08:01:46




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Too many parts stores have gotten rid of the counter men who actually knew something about parts, and went for the pretty face, big chest and cute butted, airheads who don't know a brake pad from a crotch pad. Those cuties are great for serving beer, but I'm not looking to spend hours at the parts store while they figure out the difference between a wing nut and a lug nut.



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krm

09-12-2006 08:00:17




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I had a good deal-bad deal with Napa.Had a Napa fuel pump go out on 97 Chevy Truck one day after the one year warranty was up.No big deal Napa said
we'll replace it,thats the good part.The bad part is the pump should last longer than one year and what about the $350.00 labor to replace the pump?



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souNdguy

09-12-2006 07:44:42




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I've also got to jump on the counterperson bandwagon.

The GC I work for buys about 1k-5k$ worth of napa parts a month give or take.. depending on what type of a job we are on...

That means I'm on the phone or in a store ordering alot of parts..

It's my opinion.. that there is usually only 1 person in each store that knows -anything-.. and the rest are just there to breath up otherwise good air that other people could be using.

Soundguy

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Gerald J.

09-12-2006 07:27:57




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I'll pound on the same theme as many others here. Counter guys (and gals) who know what parts are. Won't bother me if there's grease around their fingernails either.

But its not comforting to order a water pump for a gas JD 4020 specific by year and when it comes in find its for a previous version that won't fit the auxiliary pipes.

Its less comforting to go to pick up a condenser for a Briggs engine and have the lonely Sunday afternoon help offer me a coil off the special order shelf instead of the condenser I wished.

These two incidents happened in the local NAPA store.

Parts stores that offer stock, knowligible sales help, and good prices will survive. The rest will slowly attrify until they disappear because the service trade will not give them business when it hurts the service shop's business with delays and high cost. We individual customers won't have nearly so much effect but we will gain or loose much the same way, just not three times each day.

Gerald J.

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kopeck

09-12-2006 06:43:42




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I've used NAPA stuff for a while and have really only had two problems. One was they gave me the wrong break pads which wasn't a big deal the other time was a little bit more annoying. I bought a set of plug wires for my '79 chevy half ton (350) and when I went to put them in they were WAY to long. Half on them were pretty close but the other half had to be tied up. These where suppose to be the better wires too, instead they looked like some generic set.

The truck has run fine for the last 6 years so I guess I can't complain to much, it's just they are kind of ugly under there.

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Billy NY

09-12-2006 06:22:25




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I had always wondered if anyone like napaguy has read posts on subjects like these or if other companies that are being discussed, say like everyones favorite LPG supplier Ferrell, was seeing any of the posts, certainly could learn a lot, LOL !

In this area, and although just a little inconvienent as it is several miles away, I go to the napa warehouse, it's a busy place, well stocked and the people are good. I went in there one time and saw someone behind the counter that was in the local store when I was in highschool. There are some career guys and some younger ones who are learning, the service is still good.

Now, I had just did some work on the old F-600 and as a rule I just bring whatever it is that I need ( old part ) as much as possible, record parts numbers etc. etc. I try to help as best can be done. I gave the younger guy all the information and as much as I could bring with me, well the exhaust studs he took back to the bin, and what did I get, wrong one, he had the ones I needed in his hand to match, that is plain stupid, but I'm just as stupid for not double checking the order, spark plug wires for the 292 Y-block, wrong ones, one wire was too short, so I had to go to the autozone down the street and correct all this, get a single wire but had to make up the end myself, etc. etc. This really nothing, just inconvienent what can you do. I think it's best to check your order before you leave,who would have known about the plug wires and I needed to put em on and use the truck the next morning so I had to eat them.

I have visited many of the local stores, I believe these are franchised, all of them were staffed by good counter help, although all the local stores may not have the stock like the warehouse, they have a lot of people in those little trucks running parts all the time. Napa is still the best around here, we had a lot of independent, old school parts houses, but they are all gone, these were the only other ones I would deal with, when the big chains came out, same thing, young kids working their way through school or some other transition, not impressive at all behind the counter, computerized system unlike the catalogs which Napa still has on the counter as well as their computer system.

There is one guy who knows fords at the warehouse store, and I've got a few of those, I needed an alternatorb for this old truck and they had to order it, he knew a local re-builder that would have it, so I went over there, got one right away. These guys will try and help you in a crunch, even if it is a lost sale, don't matter.

I avoid the place on Saturday mornings, it's a madhouse with lots of do it yourself'ers, so on the flip side the counter help can be extremely busy at times and have to deal with unreasonable people, yet still keep a smile on their face, it's not an easy job when dealing with the public and some of the modern attitudes, some people can be downright rude to say the least.

I really can't complain about NAPA around here, they have maintained the reputation, even the franchises, Autozone is just closer, I don't like to buy from them if possible.

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redboy656

09-12-2006 06:07:47




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I have only been to NAPA once, you need to carry more non-car/truck parts. (mower belts pullies tractor parts etc)



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Mike M

09-12-2006 05:58:34




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Our little town has 5 different parts stores all within less than a mile of each other. Hard pressed to get any good help at any of them. And when one has a part they all seem to have it and if one doesn't have the part you need ,none of the others seem to either. Nobody keeps any slower moving stuff like they used to.



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Dachshund

09-12-2006 05:45:46




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
LOWER PRICES and GET BETTER PARTS! Used to be, NAPA had the best parts for a good price - now they are higher than anyone else (around here anyway) and sell cheap junk. Hire someone who can read a parts book, not just rely on a computer.I usually drive 40-50 miles to a Car-Quest, O'Reilly's, or Advanced Auto to avoid NAPA (usually end up waiting to the end of the month when we are going anyway). The parts at the other plaeces are still cheap overseas junk, but at least you aren't charged twice for it!

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MD Wa.

09-11-2006 21:50:08




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
napaguy. Had this happen last Friday. Went in to order parts for a mag. on a Farmall "A". Know that they would have to be ordered. OK. Guy behind counter looked up the numbers I gave him and told he could cross only two of then. Had the cap on hand, showed it to me and it wes for a bat ignition not a mag. Told him that was worng and he said with a straight face that that was what the computer call for. Asker if they got there parts out of Seattle or Portland becouse I know they stock mag. parts in the Portland werehouse. He said Seattle and he could/would not order then form Portland. I will by pass the local store from from now on. Morgan

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thejdman01

09-12-2006 17:26:04




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to MD Wa., 09-11-2006 21:50:08  
Be fair about your pricing. Local muffler guy 5 star mufflers buys all of his parts from napa. I can buy parts from him (after napas markup and after his markup) cheaper then me myself going directly to napa myself. Doesnt make alot of sense, i know volume etc but htat is a bit much of markup to the average man.



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Jon Hagen

09-11-2006 21:40:21




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
My local NAPA store is 22 miles down the road in a town of about 1000. We are blessed with a couple of counter guys who been around cars all their lives. They understand the parts and how they work. Either one could and has done jobs like engine overhauls or changing an engine or transmission. Service is good within the limits of how much a small town store can stock. They can have most out of stock parts in 24 hrs.

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john d

09-11-2006 21:40:07




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
There are 3 NAPA stores within 18 miles of me. One of them has had every part I've gone in and asked for, but it's not really a convenient location for me. The service and attitude in that place is outstanding. That one and one other is always busy, with cars in the parking lot and customers at the counter. The third one is next door to an AutoZone, and getting run into the ground. When you walk into that one, they act like they're doing you a big favor just to wait on you. Their parts may be better than much of what AutoZone handles, but the attitude is poor. The parking lot is usually empty, and they lock the door as soon as the clock says it's time to close. The most convenient place for me is a CarQuest outlet, and once again, the attitude is what makes it special. It's in an older building, things are crowded, and you may have to wait in line, but the people behind the counter KNOW their stuff and wait on you with a smile.

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DRL

09-11-2006 21:05:32




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
There is no NAPA store in my area, but this is what my experience has been with parts stores in general. You can really tell the parts guys that have been there for a while (read pre-computer) and those who haven't. Parts people used to have to look it up in a book and go by the part numbers and after a while, they knew what part was needed without having to look it up. They knew what interchanged. Also the old fashioned stores had several suppliers and the parts people were usually on a first name basis with these suppliers and didn't have to look up their phone number. They would get out the old books and research old numbers, find crossovers, etc. They would get on the phone and usually find what you needed if they didn't have it on their shelf. Seems today, if it isn't in the computer, that is where it stops. You are just SOL, buddy.

Case in point. A couple of weeks ago I had a wheel bearing go out on a boat trailer late in the evening. Bearing came apart and wheel came off. Not much left of the bearing and numbers were worn off long ago. I went to the local box store because they are open late. I had no idea of the manufacturer of the trailer as it wasn't mine and I'm not sure that it would have helped anyhow. All I got was a blank stare from the person behind the counter. Was told unless he went through every bearing on the shelf there was no way to find the one I needed. Got on the cell phone and called the local mom and pop parts store which should have been closed. They were luckily still there helping another customer out of a bind. I went there, told the guy what I needed. He knew which part number I needed right off the top of his head. Took the calipers and measured to be sure, and was correct. Got my bearing, got the boat off the side of the road and was on my way. Who do you think will get my business from now on??

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napaguy

09-11-2006 21:10:08




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to DRL, 09-11-2006 21:05:32  
bet it was either an a4 or a14 bearing set.napaguy



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Boley

09-11-2006 21:02:29




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
We don't have a NAPA anymore,I miss the "Blue Streak"ignition parts.Also the counter man that really did know everything.Several years ago I needed a front brake hose for my '46 CJ2A Willys.Roy was working the counter and said "my book don't go back that far.Do you have it with you?" I did,after seeing it,"that looks like a hose for a '69 Chevy Impala".It was,and fit perfectly,length,clips,and fittings.I don't expect or get this performance from the punks operating the parts stores of today with their computers and China made goods.Who carries brass fittings anymore?Sure ain't Auto Zone,O'Rileys,or Advance.If our grandchildren knew what we've allowed to happen to real live parts stores they would put us in nursing homes.Boley

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Jiles

09-11-2006 20:48:35




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Salespeople who know something about what they are selling !!!!



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gold-leaf-deere

09-11-2006 20:34:35




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I used NAPA Paint on the Gold-Leaf-Deere D, My major complaint is the different prices at different stores, one ex NAPA parts man told me that each parts man is on a commission, that is the reason different prices at different stores. I only go to NAPA when I can't get the part elseware, it bugs me when some computor guru has no idea what I am looking far unless it in his computor program.

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thejdman01

09-12-2006 17:38:05




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to gold-leaf-deere, 09-11-2006 20:34:35  
Yes different pricing at differnt sotres amazes me, i know independantly owned each sets his or her own price but sometimes 20 bucks difference??? Also my biggest complaint is when i have hte old part in hand you look up in your computer the part bring it out take a look at it and it is completely differnt fromt he part i have in my hand. THEN you procede to tell me your part is right, my part is wrong, and htey dont make the part i have in my hand. And to top it all off dont try to help me find the part i have in my hand

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thejdman01

09-12-2006 17:37:36




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to gold-leaf-deere, 09-11-2006 20:34:35  
Yes different pricing at differnt sotres amazes me, i know independantly owned each sets his or her own price but sometimes 20 bucks difference??? Also my biggest complaint is when i have hte old part in hand you look up in your computer the part bring it out take a look at it and it is completely differnt fromt he part i have in my hand. THEN you procede to tell me your part is right, my part is wrong, and htey dont make the part i have in my hand. And to top it all off dont try to help me find the part i have in my hand

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napaguy

09-11-2006 20:47:16




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to gold-leaf-deere, 09-11-2006 20:34:35  
i don't know about other stores gold leaf deere, but i don't get any commission..strictly paid by the hour..some days seem longer than others!!as far as the old catalogs.....i use them everyday. lots of things(u joints and exhaust systems for example) are actually easier for me to look up the old fashioned way. i hear what you are saying about the computer guru type guys. i guess it is the younger generation doing what they have been taught.usually at our store when they can't find it they will ask for my help.thanks for the reply, napaguy

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37 chief

09-11-2006 20:27:29




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I bought a water pump for my 99 GMC van. I wanted a good one, as it was a bear to change, and didn't want to go through that for a while if ever. Got home and found the pump was made in China. I called them about the pump, and they said if it goes out they will replace it. That is not what I wanted to hear. I guess I would say get good US made parts. Stan



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THEkyroastnear

09-11-2006 20:22:24




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
something i noticed lately with all parts houses is many no longer keep common items in stock and seem to rely on next day or two order probably because business is so tight they cant afford to tie up money in big inventory. NAPA has been good to me although i would rather deal with an older more knowlegable counter help



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napaguy

09-11-2006 20:39:38




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to THEkyroastnear, 09-11-2006 20:22:24  
roastenear, had to look at your name twice before i figured it out!i'm kinda slow like that sometimes!i don't know about knowledgable, but i am definitely old!you are right about dollars tied up in inventory. i know a parts store without inventory is not a good parts store.what is weird(to me anyway) is the way we track lost sales.used to be (pre computer era) your inventory control manager went over a buyers guide and maybe stocked a particular store with all "class a" items. now with the tracking system we have, with one simple keystroke you can record a sale lost by not having it in your inventory. the downside of this for example, is that if two people call me for a price on a right caliper for an '04 ford f350 and i do not stock it i record it. inventory control guy sees this number come up so eventually adds it to my stock as a new number. then a guy comes in for calipers for above vehicle. seeing as no one has ever priced the left caliper i do not have it in stock (because it has never been recorded as a "lost sale"). hope that makes sense the way i explained it. napaguy

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IH2444

09-11-2006 20:10:48




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Knowledable counter workers are the most valuable asset for any auto parts store.



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806man

09-11-2006 19:56:33




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I like napa products,quality,price. My problem is that in the times we live in now if it is not exactly as the "computer" has it the part is not available. If you will use your head to help a customer instead of keyboard keys and actually look in the books or make a few calls to your vendors you will far offset any disadvantage of being a small dealer. Remember the price is long forgotten but the quality and service will long be remembered.

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napaguy

09-11-2006 20:00:16




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to 806man, 09-11-2006 19:56:33  
hey 806man, i like the phrase at the last part of your post....couldn't agree more. that pretty much holds with anything, thanks, napaguy



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CLW

09-11-2006 19:43:58




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I use about 4 different parts stores. Of those NAPA is the best but I have no gripes about any of them. NAPA is smaller than the other 3 and farther for me to drive to but I have not needed anything I couldn't get at any of them. I visit a Corvette forum and they favor NAPA. I haven't needed parts for mine yet.



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kyhayman

09-11-2006 19:43:14




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I used to really frequent our NAPA store, and I still love the parts quality. Price is an issue though. Filter prices have gotten out of control, the same filter in Wix (same part number even, Wix just uses a 3 in front) costs 2/3 as much at the other parts store.



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napaguy

09-11-2006 19:55:45




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to kyhayman, 09-11-2006 19:43:14  
thanks hayman. the filters are made by wix and some are a little pricey....newer ford diesels come to mind.we give pretty good deals on farm filters in the springtime(same as everyone else!)
i did price a jd box type fuel filter to a guy while back. he wanted 2, we only had 1. out of curiosity i had the guy call the local autozone. they told him 31.00 and three days to get. ours was 16.55. i think there are alwaqys situations where we are very competitive or really overpriced. i have benn in the parts business almost 30 years, take pride in what i do, and always try to go the extra mile. i don't like to sell a customer something he doesn't need just to make an extra dollar. owner of the company probably doesn't see it that way, though. i always figured if i could save you 5 bucks on tuesday you may come in and spend 10 on thursday1 THANKS AGAIN,NAPAGUY

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kyhayman

09-11-2006 21:00:51




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:55:45  
Thats one of the things I always like about Napa guys, they do try. I certainly have to give credit where credit is due, too. My local store went above and beyond for me on a starter warranty on my Dodge Cummins.



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napaguy

09-11-2006 21:16:22




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to kyhayman, 09-11-2006 21:00:51  
kyhayman, glad they helped you out. the rayloc rebuilt units come from morganfield, kentucky. napaguy



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paul

09-11-2006 19:42:23




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
Used to be a real good place to go. Still is pretty good, but the folks behind the counter sure dumbed down a lot the past 8 years. Now you try to time your stop when the smart person will be there - much more hit & miss than it used to be.

It used to be they were real helpful & smart about finding parts for a farmer type.

They are slowly joining the other autoparts stores, with help that smiles & offers to change a wiper blade, but doesn't even know what a common bearing is or where it would be stocked - or heaven forbid one would have to figure out how to order one....

Service is the name of the game.
--->Paul

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Jon Holt

09-11-2006 19:40:13




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
I think that the quality of the Napa parts are at or below the other chain stores, but cost somewhat higher. I have also had a lot of bad luck with Napa electrical parts (starters and alternators), and your belts seemed like they always stretched too much. I also used quite a bit of the parts stores as I worked for a car service center.



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napaguy

09-11-2006 19:44:47




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to Jon Holt, 09-11-2006 19:40:13  
thanks for the reply jon. that is the kind of information am looking for. so far we have actually had pretty good luck with the rayloc starters and alternators.haven't had any complaints on the belts.now i will probably get one tomorrow,ha ha! they are made by gates rubber company. thanks again,napaguy



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Gene Davis (GA)

09-11-2006 19:26:34




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
In our county the NAPA store USED to be the place to go. Now since it has been bought out by a group that has about 8-10 other NAPA stores, it is the place to AVOID GOING. They are on the level with all the chain auto supply stores. They don't give a d@#% about the customer any more.



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Gene Davis (GA)

09-11-2006 19:23:35




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to napaguy, 09-11-2006 19:13:18  
In our county the NAPA store USED to be the place to go. Now since it has been bought out by a group that has about 8-10 other NAPA stores, it is the place to AVOID GOING. They are on the level with all the chain auto supply stores. They don't give a d@#% about the customer any more.



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napaguy

09-11-2006 19:32:12




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 Re: napa stores in general in reply to Gene Davis (GA), 09-11-2006 19:23:35  
thanks for the reply gene. our store is in a pretty rural area. we are not real heavy in either tractor or h/d truck parts. we do however have five different brands of carb cleaner, probably forty different brands and weightas of oil, every engine additive known to man,etc. years ago we were heavy into air conditioning parts..today i had to order in a simple 3/8 o-ring type filter drier for a tractor. we used to keep an item like that in stock. the customer did let me order it in for tomorrow. napaguy

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