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Is the block cracked?

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Sambear

09-03-2006 15:28:54




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My McCormick Deering W30 tractor has been sitting in my parents" farm yard for a number of years with the radiator cap missing. There is a good possibility that water has found its way into the block; the engine is seized. The farm is in Saskatchewan, and from December until March the temperatures are almost consistently well below zero -- temperatures can dip to -40 degrees. At this point, I have not been able to determine whether or not water has been able to drain out of the block. How likely is it that the block is cracked? Is there an easy way to determine if it is cracked or not?

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Sambear

09-04-2006 20:35:18




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Sambear, 09-03-2006 15:28:54  
Thanks everyone for your notes. I put in 15 litres into this 1938 McCormick Deering W30 (through the head) and then some more diesel into each cylinder directly via the spark plug hole. So far, diesel has been dripping out of the bottom where (I believe) a gasket should be to attached between the oil pan and the base of the block.



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Nebraska Cowman

09-03-2006 15:40:15




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Sambear, 09-03-2006 15:28:54  
I'd say there is a better chance that the bottom tank on the radiator might be split. But if the tractor was drained to begin with the block shouldn't be hurt. Even with the cap off I doubt it would catch that much water and it would evaporate.



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RAW in IA

09-03-2006 15:39:47




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Sambear, 09-03-2006 15:28:54  
Depends, if the drain plug is open, probably not, as enough water to crack it would not be able to build up in the block. It would take quite a while for enough to get in the radiator cap hole to fill it enough to damage it. Grandpa's F-20 froze up one winter because the drain plugged with rust when dad pulled the cap off, and he didn't stay arouond to watch it drain. It cracked the block, but on the outside so it has been repaired. They have wet sleeves, so if it is stuck they should be pulled anyway, so it will not be hard to check it out.

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mjbrown

09-03-2006 15:34:34




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Sambear, 09-03-2006 15:28:54  
Pour some antifreeze in it and see if any comes out anywhere.



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Turke Bros. Farms

09-03-2006 16:07:17




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to mjbrown, 09-03-2006 15:34:34  
I agree with that, take the oil drain plug out and fill the antifreeze up, see what comes out of the bottom. Post us a message on what you found.



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Sambear

09-04-2006 20:41:43




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Turke Bros. Farms, 09-03-2006 16:07:17  
Thanks everyone for your notes. I put in 15 litres of diesel fuel into this 1938 McCormick Deering W30 (through the head) and then some more diesel into each cylinder directly via the spark plug hole. So far, diesel has been dripping out of the bottom where (I believe) a gasket should be to attached between the oil pan and the base of the block.



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Sambear

09-05-2006 14:20:08




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 Re: Is the block cracked? in reply to Sambear, 09-04-2006 20:41:43  
Another note, the cap for the gasoline tank (used to start the engine before using the kerosene tank) was left uncovered. Rain would have found it way in there, along with snow. That tank is very rusted, though the fuel line (and the glass bowl is not cracked).

The exhaust pipe may have also been uncovered, so I guess all the extra openings were available for water to intrude; luckily, the engine itself was covered.

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