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Drought aid too late ??

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Glen in TX

08-29-2006 18:22:45




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What have the rest of you read about the drought aid plan for your area? Will it help you or too late? Think it's 4 years too late for here and wheat farmers but I haven't looked at the rest of their plans. Putting it all back to grass looks better every day. Finally got rains here and everything is green again but missed 2 dryland crops for the year and not enough cattle around to lease it out for.

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paul

08-30-2006 06:20:40




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Glen in TX, 08-29-2006 18:22:45  
Too late isn't the question. It's only a little tiny bit of money. Not enough to really do any good. If you lose 1000 acres of crop, & the govt gives you $5000 - big deal, what's that?

The bad from it: folks like below think farmers are getting rich from the 'handouts'. Cargill is happy because it keeps the price of grain a little lower.

Think we would be better off if there were no govt bandades at all. The markets would snap higher & we could make or break on our own.

Right now the govt supports & emergency deals keep a cap on income, and grain prices drift lower & lower. With more stady but low prices, the big can get bigger. The medium get driven out of the game entirely.

--->Paul

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Nebraska Cowman

08-30-2006 04:33:40




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Glen in TX, 08-29-2006 18:22:45  
No. I drew a line in the sand. I am going to make it by myself or quit. I quit reporting acres and told USDA to take my name off their mailing list.



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Glen in TX

08-31-2006 15:52:33




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-30-2006 04:33:40  
Yep, I think we all need to do that. Sooner the better and just put it all back in grass and when they finally wake up and want grain bins filled our government will just buy it foreign or have to come back to us crying wondering what went wrong? The headache of their programs just isn't worth it anymore and fat cat companies got all the politicians paid off to their ways anyhow. Ethanol plants going in here to save grain farmers? Yeah right. Big companies are going to keep grain prices down where no one can afford to grow it anymore. It's all 30 years too late. Best thing I've seen near here on edge of caprock is some leasing rocky land for wind generators yet can still go back later and graze around them. So far I haven't seen anymore grazing around them yet so it must pay good enough?

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colekicker

08-29-2006 18:52:32




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Glen in TX, 08-29-2006 18:22:45  
Well, it is bone dry in between Houston and Austin, going north into Oklahoma. It is so dry in the panhandle that if it is not under a center pivot, it is dead. I think this is gonna be too late and not enough.



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Glen in TX

08-31-2006 15:43:15




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to colekicker, 08-29-2006 18:52:32  
Yeah we thought things were dead here too in TX panhandle but only enough rain in June to keep things alive and then burnt up again till rains last few weeks. Well that hybrid grass I planted did die and it's all weeds now. Too much rain at once and weeds galore to plow down to get wheat in soon. Not enough cattle around to keep things grazed down. Dryland farming with our government and insurance is joke now and soon going to be a thing of past putting most everything back to grass and irrigated farming here may be right behind it with falling water table and energy/fuel prices. Yeah it won't be enough and politicians are too far from agriculture to understand and just take payoffs under the table from the big companies that can buy their way to keep them going and that's it.

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R. Goodwin

08-29-2006 18:47:09




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Glen in TX, 08-29-2006 18:22:45  
Glen, wherebouts are you in Texas? I live in east texas about 40 miles south of Palestine in the piney woods. Has not rained here all summer long, maybe 1 inch since last May. My brother lives south of Houston and says he has to mow yard every week to keep up. Many here are selling their cows, have nothing to eat and no hay to feed them now or this winter. Runs at the local livestock auction are averaging over 3,000 per week. If does not rain this fall or winter don't think their will be any cow-calf operations left here.

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Glen in TX

08-31-2006 15:32:17




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to R. Goodwin, 08-29-2006 18:47:09  
R. Goodwin, I'm in the panhandle area next to NM way on west side. I know where you are there not far from Lufkin as we work some with forest service folks there. It was real dry here since last fall and June rains barely greened things and then it burnt up again. No dryland wheat, no dryland milo this time and grass has finally greened and growing but like you said no cattle much to put out for grazing because everyone has sold them off when dry earlier or because of all te fires earlier. Some had investor cattle out on CRP grass emergency grazing and don't know how they kept from losing money on that and now we have pasture grass to lease for grazing they want those cattle penned in mud to just feed? Makes lots of sense? Not. lol. Yeah we sold cows 3 years ago and will probably never run a cow/calf operation ever again and it's just going to leasing to the big guys and packer owned cattle. Might as well go back to grass and windmills and forget farming for what irrigation costs now too. None of their programs work for dryland farmers anymore and don't pay enough. Their stupid program for dryland corn was a disaster last 2 years and everyone living in the panhandle knew you can't grow dryland corn here when last 2 years wheat and milo has failed. Everyone wants cheap food but won't understand why we need ag subsidiy programs until they are starving someday and all their food, clothes, and everything they own is foreign made. Best thing I've seen is in NM close to here where they leased rocky grass cliffs on edge of caprock for wind generators. It's making them more money than farming or cattle could now.

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Uncle Sambo

08-29-2006 18:34:06




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Glen in TX, 08-29-2006 18:22:45  
Well if you was a minority you would get free money, food stamps, and food from the soup kitchen. It is sad isnt that we can pour piles of cash into Iraq and rebuild other BS countrys and we cant help our own.....makes me sick.



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Eddie KLING

08-29-2006 19:41:31




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Uncle Sambo , 08-29-2006 18:34:06  
You think you should get paid because it doesn't rain? So now the government controls the weather?

Doesn't rain= want to get paid
Rains too much- want to get paid
Wind blows= want to get paid



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farmermatt

08-30-2006 05:15:37




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Eddie KLING, 08-29-2006 19:41:31  
Hungry Eddie????


I DIDNT THINK SO!!!!



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billyiron

08-29-2006 20:02:30




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 Re: Drought aid too late ?? in reply to Eddie KLING, 08-29-2006 19:41:31  
Let me guess,,you rent your house and work for the usda! or maybe cargill,,,,, ,,,,, ,billy



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