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Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues?

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08-28-2006 20:04:47




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Has anyone else been having bad experiences with new brake drums being out of round? I made the bad mistake of buying a new set of drums for my '96 Dakota thinking I'd do the right thing and put new ones on instead of turning the old ones.(and I've tossed my old ones) Talk about a mistake.

I've bought drums from three different places and they are out of spec. right from the box. The book calls for a max. of .008" out of round and I've got some that are .016" out. The closes I've got is one that is .009". When I step on the brakes, the truck shakes like the dickens unless I really push the peddle down. It for sure is the rear brakes since the same "shakin" happens when I use the e-brake. The drums didn't overheat since I can put a new set of drums on (that measure out of round) and the truck will shake the first time I step on the brakes.

I've checked the axles and the hub is straight and true to the world. Also, I rebuilt the rear end with new axles during all of this and it didn't change the shake at all.

Sad to say, but I'm about ready to go buy some used drums.

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Glen in TX

08-29-2006 18:36:33




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
That's been a problem with cheaper brake parts for a long while and I had some problems with other better brands being boxed wrong too. I'll never go back to Auto Zone for brake parts again as they wanted to argue with me and sell me wrong brake cylinders and those were boxed wrong and then the drums I had to return because they were not even near turned out enough to even go on with shoes pulled all the way in. Finally got another set of new drums and they had to be trued up some before putting on. Quality hasn't been there on those cheaper parts from any of the chain parts stores.

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jmixigo

08-29-2006 16:05:44




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
Brake parts are way cheaper than they used to be
in our shop drums and rotors go on the lathe before going on the car



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you

08-29-2006 07:59:43




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
as a note a lot of problems are in the way discs and drums are stored. As they will naturally warp.discs must be stored straght up ans drums flat.and always a good shop will check them i on a lathe to see if they are round



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john-mi

08-29-2006 06:05:56




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
The brake rotors on my 2000 GMC completely came apart by flaking chunks out of them. Went and got new aftermarket rotors from China. They work better than OEM when new. Told the GM mechanic what i did, and he said that they were probably better than GM puts on new. All with less than 50000 miles.



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INCase

08-29-2006 05:33:28




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
I'd look around at salvage yards for another set of OEM drums. They will likely be rusted a bit from sitting but you may luck out and find a set you can clean up and turn. Or buy a "better" set (raybestos or Wagner) and have them turned into spec. IF needed. I've never had to replace rear drums. There are NO aftermarket drums/rotors as good as the originals (for most cars). some of the racing ones may come close but you can probably buy originals from the dealer for that kind of $. I don't take drums/rotors to just anyone to have them turned either. If they don't know what they are doing or are lazy they can turn in "runout" into the brake surfaces and will that give a roughness or "shimmy". The scary thing with China rotors is the Iron. They are not very good at it...yet. You can also try your post on www.allpar.com. it is Chrysler web page kinda like this one. Someone there may have info on a good replacment drum for your truck. Good luck and be careful.

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Mike M

08-29-2006 04:30:52




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
I have gone through that at different times here at work mostly with rotors. You just may have to have the new ones turned or go buy some expensive ones.



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Don c

08-29-2006 03:46:47




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
Back in the 70s I worked in a garage that done brakes and front end work, this was a big name company. Every new brake drum that was bought was suppose to be turned to true it up and we had a machine you put the new shoes on and ground them down, you would be surprised of the high spots on a set of new shoes, looked like you was taking a lot off but it was just the high spots that you was removing. I have test drove cars without turning drum and truing up the shoes and then turned them and trued them up. Big, big difference in bounce and stopping ability.

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e

08-29-2006 05:53:59




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to Don c, 08-29-2006 03:46:47  
Here's the funny thing, I have tried turning a set of drums. The first set I bought was a middle of the road Raybestos set that was cast in Canada. After turning, they were great for about 500 miles before the problem came back. It wasn't as bad as before, but it still was very noticiable.

I've looked into buying even Brembos which are supposed to be top quality, but even Brembos have "CHINA" cast in them. Dissapointing.

Is it worth trying Mopar drums? As of now, I'm ready to shell out whatever it takes to solve this problem.

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doogdoog

08-29-2006 01:39:22




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
Aloha, Yep, bad mistake dumping the oem drums. I would have them turned than replacing them with the China stuff. You could get the oem (big bucks) or turn down the new one's.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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Blue3992

08-28-2006 22:15:56




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
Check with your auto parts retailer. Last time I priced discs at NAPA, it seemsd like they had thee options:

1. Really cheap China discs 2. Canada/Mexico made discs
3. Really fancy expensive discs



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Davis In SC

08-28-2006 20:52:24




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 Re: Bad Brake Drums - Anyone else having issues? in reply to e, 08-28-2006 20:04:47  
Most replacement parts are now made in China, or Indonesia... It scares me that the car in the other lane may be running "Lowest cost" parts.. The Auto Parts chains are just like Wal Mart, they buy the cheapest items that they can, to maximize profits...



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