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OT- Sticker shock II

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John S-B

08-28-2006 08:59:44




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I need to make a decision whether to get another pickup or to restore the old one. I have a '95 Dodge 2500 that's starting to show it's age. I've pretty much ruled out buying brand new. The truck has rust in the front quarter panels just in front of the doors and over the wheels in the back. The hood also has some minor dings. Carpet is shot and the drivers seat is worn and it needs a new headliner. The engine probably needs the injectors rebuilt, it smokes on startup, does'nt seem to have much power until it warms up for a minute or two. It's got about 200K on it. Anybody got an idea how much it would cost to do a nice body job and maybe a valve/ring job and injectors? The other alternative is to buy something 2-3 years old. I just don't want a $500 a month payment, kids are gonna be in college before long. Thanks

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Steven@AZ

08-28-2006 16:51:27




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
I learned... have a friend who buys salvage and rebuilds - costs about 1/2 what they want for new and you end up with a nice vehicle with low miles.

Latest example: 04 Chevy Suburban with ALL options for $16k repaired - books at $30k. I just bought a 96 Tbird w/68k miles on it with some minor damage for $1000... will cost me about $1000 to fix. When I'm done I'll have $2k in a car that would have cost me about $5k at a dealer.

No more dealers for me!

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colekicker

08-28-2006 13:56:12




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
Take a visit over to dieseltruckresource. There is a ton of information about your truck. You could possibly pick up used fenders and hood that aren't in bad shape.

KEEP IT.

You will never be able to replace that truck. Unless you find one with a lot fewer miles. Even if you get another truck, don't trade it.



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Luke S

08-28-2006 12:47:10




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
I think I'd keep it too, sense it's a diesel. A good old 12-valve Cummins in a Dodge is a tough combo. The Dodge bodies get tried after 200k and need a little help. You can get new aftermarket front fenders for around $150 a piece, a hood for about the same, and there are companies that make repair panels you can weld in for the back cab corners. Over the rear wheels are tough, you could bondo them with a patch behind. Or another option is a flatbed, depending on what you use it for. I prefer a flatbed for farm work, as I have several.

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John S-B

08-28-2006 12:26:14




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
I forgot to mention it is a diesel. I ordered it before they were actually in production so it is one of the very first club cabs built. bed is in decent shape except for right over the wheels, the rust up front is worse. I guess the other bad part about restoring it is I'll have to have cash up front.



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Ken Macfarlane

08-28-2006 11:30:46




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
Well, if the thing is reliable, I'd keep it. All the things wrong won't stop it from doing work. The cost is all about how you go about doing it. You can cheap it out and get some bondo slapped in the rust holes and deal with it every 2 years or you can get someone to weld new sections in the bed and put new quarters on and do a good job rust proofing. A whole paint job is $$$ but you can get an ok match for a work truck on just a panel.

Pick up a seat from a newer one at a pickand pull junk yard, get some headliner from JC Whitney or whereever.

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Luke S

08-28-2006 10:40:00




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 Re: OT- Sticker shock II in reply to John S-B, 08-28-2006 08:59:44  
Gas or diesel? If gas, I'd throw it away. Diesel, probably fix it up. The older 12-valve Cummins engines can be a little stiff when they are not up to operationg teperature. A little smoke at start-up on an old Cummins is normanl. I have one that has just over 300k on it and it will blow out a puff of black smoke at first and if it is cool a little white. It has never had anything done to it other than oil and filter changes. Still doesn't use a drop of oil over a 5-6,000 miles change interval. If it really bothers you, take it in to a Cummins shop and have em check it over. I have several Dodge diesels, and even the one with 300k on it is still a good reliable truck. I pull with it every week, sometimes 20-30k pounds. I maintain it, and I don't abuse it, and I think I will get another 200k out of the engine. The clutch and tranny are due for some attention though as they have never been out of the truck after 300k miles. It all still works, but you can tell the clutch is getting pretty warped.

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