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OT: Value of wood to chop

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wisc dave

08-21-2006 12:27:18




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Question, What is the value of dead standing timber, mixed variety of trees? Secondly, if the "landlord" wants a percentage of cut wood as his payment, what would be a reasonable ratio?
Figure the wood is cut and stacked in the timber by the "sharecropper"
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Teddy (punchie)

08-22-2006 04:53:44




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:27:18  
I would say 25.00 or 50.00 for M . I think most guys think they are getting free wood for letting you cut. I have a number of people I cut in the there woods for all but free . I help them clear and or make trails. Have fun be safe !! Teddy



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RodInNS

08-21-2006 14:55:33




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:27:18  
Where I'm at, dry fuel grade wood is selling anywhere from $45/cord up to $70/cord for 8' wood, roadside. That doesn't involve any cleanup of slash. The roadside price takes into account the cutter's wages, the forwarder cost, and a very very meagre stumpage value. I wouldn't say the stumpage value would be any higher than $20/cord.
That said, around these parts, hardwood is plentiful and cheap. There is an abundance due to most people going after the high grade veeneer and sawlogs. The rest goes into the firewood pile unless they're hard up, and some more will go for pallet wood, which pays about the same or less than firewood. If I were you, I'd find out what stumpage values are in your area, and decide what your time is worth. Base your/his share on that.

Rod

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OH Boy

08-21-2006 12:42:25




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:27:18  
I had a distant relative let it be known that the rest of the family could come and chop firewood from his woodlot, and he would take half of the cut wood as his 'share'. I think he expected it stacked in his shed too.

Nobody would bite on that deal. Cutting it, hauling it and stacking it is too much work to do two shares of work for only one share of the wood.

It would have to be more like 3 loads for me, one for him, before I would be interested in that.

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John M

08-21-2006 17:31:52




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to OH Boy, 08-21-2006 12:42:25  
Feller up the road from me was hard up for wood to burn in his fireplace since he had lost his job and could no longer afford the gas for the furnace.Several people in the neighborhood would take him a little here and a little there,I even took him some from an old oak tree that had gotten blown over in the woods.A couple of cold months went by and noone took him any wood, and all he could do was complain about how bad his neighbors were.Not one person got a thank you,not that it was expected, but the guy made no effort to show his appreciation for what he recieved.It was mentioned to one of his "friends" that he needed some food, becuase he hadnt had anything to eat for a couple of days, so a few of the good neighbors brought him some food.Guess what he did? Complained about it! Now the guy has a job!Making a good living, but has yet to show his appreciation for what he received when he needed it,even made a very rude comment about a very poor family in our neighborhood. He has no friends now, and hardly anyone acknoledges hes alive. I guess maybe your relative wanted them to put in on the fire and clean out the ashes as well?

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8N'r

08-21-2006 12:41:06




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:27:18  
Dave--last "swap" deal I made for some standing dead elm, was to have the "sharecropper" cut down, block into 16" pieces, brush pile the branches and stack my share of usable wood. This was a 50/50 split---I just drove around to "my" wood and loaded it onto a trailor. P.S.--mark the trees you want cut, so the sharecropper doesnt cut down your live oak, walnut, etc.--Tim (WI)



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IH2444

08-21-2006 12:30:28




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:27:18  
What about the debris, do you clean it up or does the landowner ? I am presently clearing 4 acres of timber for a neighbor. I keep everything I want and clear up/burn the rest. I do not remove the stumps though.
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wisc dave

08-21-2006 12:38:20




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to IH2444, 08-21-2006 12:30:28  
the "sharecropper cleans up and burns all the trash (in place) to a reasonable extent needed for a pasture.



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Josh in Pa

08-21-2006 12:51:38




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to wisc dave, 08-21-2006 12:38:20  
If the "sharecropper" is really a "land clearer" and is clearing a pasture for the "landlord" I think the landlord should be paying the sharecropper. I would say all the wood the "sharecropper" wants in return for a reasonable amount of cleanup/burning. This is assuming firewood, if the dead trees were marketable as timber, the landlord would be entitled to more. Josh



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mjbrown

08-21-2006 13:24:02




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 Re: OT: Value of wood to chop in reply to Josh in Pa, 08-21-2006 12:51:38  
If the timber has sawmill value the owner gets the first saw log the cutter gets the rest



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