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Matt Kane

08-18-2006 12:58:28




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After a plow an disk are pulled, What can be used to break up the dirt clumps? I have seen alot of different farm implements, but really don"t know what they do. I dont want to use a (Hand) tiller for a garden. Thanks.




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Nebraska Cowman

08-19-2006 13:44:25




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
This ground was disked a couple times and then run over with a heavy springtooth. A roller-packer is the best tool to break up lumps but a guy has to use what he has. A little rain with smooth it down.

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massey333

08-19-2006 14:15:57




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-19-2006 13:44:25  
What number Planter is that??The frame doesn't look right for a 290,unless it is a very early one.



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Leroy

08-20-2006 07:03:04




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to massey333, 08-19-2006 14:15:57  
Looks like a 290 check wire planter with down pressure spring setup and with the steel groung drive wheels that mostly would have been early models but could have been later special ordered with steel. No fertilizer attachment tho.



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Leroy

08-20-2006 07:05:36




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Leroy, 08-20-2006 07:03:04  
It does have the seed covering blades on and looks like it is set for 38" rows



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Leland

08-18-2006 20:49:42




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
We in the midwest here use a harrowgator to bust up clods it looks like a drag with a zillion 7" spikesextending about 4 to 6" below the soil when being pulled also levels ground somewhat also .



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Allan In NE

08-18-2006 15:12:35




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
Hi Matt,

I've always used the 3 P's. Plow it, pack it and plant it. I only use a disc if I want to "cut" something like heavy cover, stalks or sod.

Sure works for me.

Allan

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Devin Sparks

08-18-2006 19:45:39




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Allan In NE, 08-18-2006 15:12:35  
Hey Allan,
What would you sell me a thousand truck loads of your dirt. That is pretty soil. All I have is red clay. It is a little harder to work than what you have... Trucks are on the way, just tell me where to meet the loader LOL..

Devin



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paul

08-18-2006 14:03:32




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
Plow in fall.

Disk in spring when it's dried a bit.

Harrow after that to level & smooth the ground, kill small weed seedlings.


The disk & harrow can be replaced with a field cultivator with a harrow bar on it, one pass & done.

If you had to plow in spring; or clay or wet soil made lumps, it can be more difficult. The disk will cut lumps up some, but a disk also compacts & hardens wet clay soil..... Sometimes just gotta wait for sun to dry it, or a rain to wet & soften it....

Anyhow, sounds like a little harrow (aka drag) is what you are wanting.

--->Paul

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John T

08-18-2006 13:39:42




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
Matt, I have used a heavy cultipacker pulled behind the disk to break up n smash dirt clods but that sort of packs the soil down you know. The other thing I have done is have a spring tooth harrow mounted on the rear of the disc if the grounds not too trashy but it serves more as a level n evener than to really "break up" big clods. For corn ground I didnt want or need to fine of a seed bed but for beans or small grains I tried to work it down more and pray it didnt come a hard pounding rain the would crust the soil over too tight grrrrr rrrrr rr.

John T

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RN

08-18-2006 13:29:29




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to Matt Kane, 08-18-2006 12:58:28  
After plow and disk? No tiller? Did you make 2 or 3 passes with disk? 1st pass in direction of plow, second pass diagonal to plow, 3rd pass crossways? This would probably get your seed bed ready if somewhat sandy soil or previously worked- heavy clay may need more work. After disking that way your next tool is a spike tooth drag or C/S tine spring tooth. RN



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Gerald J.

08-18-2006 14:23:16




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 Re: Working Ground in reply to RN, 08-18-2006 13:29:29  
I found that adding a couple rows of spring tooth on the back of the disk got me the same seed bed in two passes that took three without the spring tooth.

But now I'm finding that if I don't work it at all, the ground is more mellow, just put some Dawn trash wheels on the planter row units to part the weeds, straw, and corn stalks and planted. Of course, now I'm limited to sprays for weed control, but they don't take much fuel to apply.

Gerald J.

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