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Grain binder Cutting Question

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Frank in Sask

08-07-2006 16:44:27




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Had our anual binder & threshing day yesterday. A real good day. Had a question asked. Why were binders made to cut counter clockwise? Iknow some of the older pull type combines were the same way.When was the change made to clockwise, and why? Frank




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Coaltrain

08-08-2006 13:33:04




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 Re: Grain binder Cutting Question in reply to Frank in Sask, 08-07-2006 16:44:27  
I have seen right or left hand binders of the same year and model. I often wondered the same thing, then one day while I was in the field, it dawned on me why, now I can't remember. I will try to think on it maybe it will come back to me. I do remember it was more of a nessisity than preference.



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cdmn

08-07-2006 22:11:21




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 Re: Grain binder Cutting Question in reply to Frank in Sask, 08-07-2006 16:44:27  
Some tractors required you to use the right hand for the clutch, throttle, steering etc. It was easier to look back over your left shoulder. Fordson used the right foot pedal for the clutch until 1952. Same reasoning. Case used a left hand clutch lever, others used left side clutch pedal, so maybe it was easier to work looking back over your right shoulder.
For centuries, I suppose, horses were driven along the left side of the road. They got used to the tall grass along the ditch. So the tall wheat along their left side would seem normal. It also fit in with the driver being in the seat nearest the center of the road so he could meet oncoming traffic and stay clear of collisions.
Some US states changed the road rules in about 1800. But the driver stayed on the right side like locomotive engineers. He needed to have the whip handy to his right hand. The lady was always to his left, like in church or in weddings. Most cars switched to the left seat by about 1912. Sweden switched in about 1967. United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand and Japan, etc., still drive the original way.

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oldart

08-07-2006 18:48:57




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 Re: Grain binder Cutting Question in reply to Frank in Sask, 08-07-2006 16:44:27  
i had 2 unckles one had a McCormacit cut on your right the outher had deering it cut on your left may be wrong on the names but the names were diffrent the machines looked the same but left & right the knotters were the same i was about 12 to 14 and drove the f12 to pull themgot good enough to cut a square cornner with out backing upmy cusin ran the binder the unckles set shocks
lot more history.

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Johnbob

08-07-2006 18:22:53




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 Re: Grain binder Cutting Question in reply to Frank in Sask, 08-07-2006 16:44:27  
It was so the mowing machine would cut against the angle of the stuble so as to do a better job.



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KEH

08-07-2006 18:04:17




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 Re: Grain binder Cutting Question in reply to Frank in Sask, 08-07-2006 16:44:27  
Frank,
I guess you are used to the big pull type combines up there. Here in the SE US pull type combines were small. Combines like the JD 30 and AC 60, 66, and 90 that I am farilar with all cut counterclockwise. Horse drawn mowing machiines that I have seen or used cut clockwise. Don't know the reason, but went through Cyrus MCormick's old shop in VA and saw models of his machines. As I recall, all of them cut counterclockwise so maybe later models were following his example. Would like to hear an informed explanation myself.

KEH

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