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Truck Driver Killed

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huntingreen

08-03-2006 10:18:28




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Looks like he had only one chain holding the load.




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Randy as in Randy-IA

08-05-2006 12:19:19




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to huntingreen, 08-03-2006 10:18:28  
Hi , I don't know the precise wording but a load has to be chained or strapped every ten feet of length of the load over and above the minimum weight requirements if the load can accomidate the binding points . I haul different sizes of heavy equipment ranging from smaller Gehl skidsteers to a old Bantam 35 ton hydraulic crane ( 688B ) . And I move and operate our Lima truck mounted cranes that are 11 feet wide and weigh just over 96,000 lbs . The 688 weighs 46000+ . It's a rough terrain crane that has to be hauled to job sites . I use 3/8ths - G7 load binding chains all 20' long . I wouldn't even consider anything smaller/lighter for heavy equipment from 10,000 lbs and up . I don't know what the WLL is on them . I use 5000lb max per chain . The WLL is a useless number that's really only good when the chain is new anyway . Just like torqing a bolt a chain gets unknown amounts of stress applied after a hard stop assuming the chain is tight in the first place . How many of us really know how to properly inspect a chain ? 3/8's binders are rated at 5500lbs and most screw binders I'm faniliar with are rated less . Heavier binders can be ordered but aren't generally found in the truck shops . I break the rules by using a cheater bar to make sure my chains are tight . The cheater I use is just a plain piece of black pipe 18" long sized to just fit over the binder arm . A chain won't do any good until it's TIGHT . Breakage most often happens when a load moves into a loose chain . I like to eliminate the binders on the stop chains by moving the load into the chain to tension it . I haven't lost a load in the eighteen years I've been doing it and only one close call . A JD 450 dozer on a icey deck slid sideways on a cloverleaf exit . That was the TIGHT chain lesson ! Like anything , doing the job halfa$$ed is what get's you into trouble . " Git-r-done " is the worst phrase that I've ever heard - I hate it . It's even worse when applied by " Professional " drivers . Like the old saying goes - you can have old drivers and you can have bold drivers but you don't generally have old bold drivers . My pennies worth . Take care ...Randy

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Brad in WI

08-03-2006 10:23:00




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to huntingreen, 08-03-2006 10:18:28  
Things like this is why I always put on at least 3 chains on when I haul my tractor. More if I haul something heavier. It doesn't take to long to add one or two more chains, but knowing the load won't roll forward and crush me, or come off and hurt someone else is priceless.
Brad



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the tractor vet

08-03-2006 12:37:34




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to Brad in WI, 08-03-2006 10:23:00  
Now just a friendly word of advice here with the NEW Laws reguarding tieing down a load and i don't care if it is a farmall cub ya have to have a 4 point hitch on her and even though the G70 5/16th chain sayes that it is good for 10000 lbs the DOT will only give ya about 4500 lbs on it and if they realy want to push it ya also need 60% hold back . The days of throwen two or three chains on a tractor are dead and gone . So depending on the weight ya start off with four and start adden chains . I have a new 250000 dollar gradeall on and i ha ten chains on her as it weighed in at 46000 and change plus 2 1/2 inch chains holden the load back and had to come down on the binder real hard to keep from hitting a dumb freight hauler that came around a 90 degree turn and came into my lane and the two chains on the hold back snapped like baler twine and two of the other chains broke also the gradall darn near came off the side of the trailer it was hangen on by less the 1/4 th the width of the ft. tire Now that vary easily got terminal real fast if i would have been going any faster as i saw him before he saw me . I also was haulen new Cat Skidsteers and ya had to have 6 chains and binder on each one before you could go out the gate.

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Bret4207

08-03-2006 14:58:09




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to the tractor vet, 08-03-2006 12:37:34  
The Ferderal regs say IF the item is over 10,000 lbs and would qualify as "Heavy Equipment" it needs at least 4 seperate chains and binders plus any attachments have to be tied down-hoes, buckets, etc. I will now stand by for the 3,586 nay-sayers who know better.

Signed- Your freindly nieghborhood DOT inspector



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Davis In SC

08-03-2006 20:28:45




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to Bret4207, 08-03-2006 14:58:09  
Thanks for the info, Bret.. What are the chaindown rules for under 10,000 ? Say for instance a 7,500 lb skidsteer? Thanks.



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Bret4207

08-04-2006 14:26:02




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 Re: Truck Driver Killed in reply to Davis In SC, 08-03-2006 20:28:45  
Basically it has to be secured against forward, backward, lateral movement with tiedowns with a working load limit equal to half the skid steers actual weight. Try www.mcregis.com and see if it'll let you access the Federal Motor Carrier Safety regs.

My advice these days is strap the heck out of it. Better safe than sorry.



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