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old

07-06-2006 16:45:00

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Well I pulled the JD14T baler, the hay wagon which was loaded with a NH 45,46,47 sickle mower and a MF big wheel rake. All hooked up and pulled it about 15 miles. All went well till we got on the driveway going in to my friend place. He has a long hill and at the bottom of the hill the hitch pin hooking the wagon to the baler jumped out and the hay wagon of course came unhooked. If that had happen going up a hill my friend which was running flag would have been hit by it, and if it had come off in a lot of other places wagon and equipment could have gone over and in to some very very big ditches. But as it was it stopped at the bottom of the hill and almost looked like it had been parked where it stop. Can you say lucky I sure did

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Bill(Wis)

07-07-2006 06:06:41

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

In addition to a top quality draw pin of the proper size with a positive locking mechanism, there are several kinds available, don't be bashful about using a safety chain. Especially when transporting on roads. If you've ever experienced a broken drawbar or hitch, you'll be quick to recognize why. I've had one tractor drawbar break and have had several implement hitches break.

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RustyFarmall

07-07-2006 04:43:06

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

Any time I tow machinery on the road the hitch pin gets wired down. I have seen the hair pins get pulled out, and I don't trust them. Run the wire through the loop on the top of the pin, down under the implement hitch, and then twist it tight. Make it so that the pin cannot move up and down.

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jeffcat

07-06-2006 21:13:18

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

Yup got that straight! On the farm MANY years ago it happen to me with a load of green chop. The wagon came loose behind the feild chopper going down a little slope of a hill. Tongue want under the chopper and stopped. The hole on the chopper has a little bit of slope and the load pushing from behind makes the tongue lift up and the pin with it. Two or three and you are OUT! Use the hair pin or a longer hitch pin. We went to a longer pin and never had another in better than ten years. Make a check of your undees! jeffcat

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730virgil

07-06-2006 20:26:35

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

his land lord and i were helping a friend bale some hay we had left a load of hay on what we thought to be a level spot when friend came to get hay rack it had rolled a long way and lost some of the bales just last spring i lost the manure spreader when i was cleaning out the cattle lots and barn nothing broke glad i wasn't on road when pin came out

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Don-Wi

07-07-2006 00:05:12

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to 730virgil, 07-06-2006 20:26:35

Yup, you got lucky with that manure spreader...

A few years ago i was hauling ,manure in a rough feild and the pin came out while I was turning at the end of the feild with the pto running. The shaft pulled out, swung around hitting the drawbar, and snubbed the tractor instantly. I found the pin and drilled a hole for a hairpin, but they always seem to get pulled out some how, so I don't use them unless pulling wagons down the road and a few other times.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Dan-IA

07-06-2006 20:13:34

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

From a new farmer to you more experienced hands...
How do you make a hitch pin pop out?

I've never seen that happen, and Dad never spoke of such a thing in his 32 years of farming. We lost the hairpins years ago, and tend to think of the safety chain as a gov't-mandated joke, but if you don't have it you get to pay a fine. But we've never seen a pin come out. Often, we need a hammer to drive them back up to get them out. And we've been using the same 5 hitchpins for everything for as long as I've been around (I'm 27 now.)

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Bob

07-06-2006 23:29:30

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to Dan-IA, 07-06-2006 20:13:34

Dan,

Someday, it WILL happen to you. I don't tow ANYTHING without the pin secured by one means or another.

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john d

07-06-2006 20:56:36

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to Dan-IA, 07-06-2006 20:13:34

I don't know whether to attribute hitch pins coming out to gremlins, the Dark Side, vibration, bad luck, or whatever, but if you pull enough equipment enough years, it'll happen.

I've never lost one on the road, because I use the hairpins or a self-locking pin. I've had two come out when transporting equipment around the farm, each time without a hairpin, and within 5 minutes of when I hitched up for a short trip. Both times, a hydraulic hose was what kept things together.

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old

07-06-2006 20:32:15

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to Dan-IA, 07-06-2006 20:13:34

I have never had it happen till today. I guess bumpy roads and a long hill did the trick because when I looking it the rear view mirror the wagan was gone. I was pulling all that with my 1980 chev heavy half and it wasn't fun and was real bad when we had an on comeing moblie home on the hwy. we both where looking for more road then there was. Had about a foot between the mobile home and the rake but we made it till the pin jumped out. By the way we haven't found the pin yet

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Billy NY

07-06-2006 20:07:35

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

I'm always harpin on my father about hitch pins, he does the same thing, he think's I'm a pain because I grease everything properly, change fluids on time, kind of hold things up sometimes to do it right etc., but within reason, I try to take good care of the equipment as I hate seeing any equipment not being taken care of, but these darn pins and such, why take chances, I'm glad it worked out, not sure whether you lost the hair pin or not used it, but at some point the conditions are just right and out they come.

My neighbor, while baling the field next to mine last year, lost the tongue off the NH baler, later model, but the pipe was rusted out, snapped off, he lost that 3/4 full wagon into our tree-line/woods that and a few other fiascos, having to run like crazy to get parts, weather closing in, same old story, he just upgraded and was getting the bugs out of the baler, somehow missed the rear tongue being in such bad condition, not very stout from the factory anyways, good thing the trees caught it, otherwise it would have ended up in the 23 acre pond below.

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old

07-06-2006 20:36:16

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to Billy NY, 07-06-2006 20:07:35

We didn't put the hair pin in, ya I know we should have but we didn't. Funny thing it jumped out in the last half mile and not before. I stoped 3 times to check every thing and all was well till I went down that long hill and then I lost the wagon. Oh well nothing was hurt and I will be sure to use the hair pins or wire if the hairpin is lost.

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Cliff Neubauer

07-06-2006 19:10:47

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

We used to have a 15' no-till drill that had alot of negative tongue weight and I managed to loose the pin out of it twice over the years. With the negative tongue weight the hitch would rock up and down and work the pin out the top. I finally learned to loop a piece of #9 wire from the hitch pin handle down through the pin's hole and back up to the handle where I tied it good. It was a pain to get the wire back out through the pin but but smaller wire or the hair pin clips would get pulled out by corn stalks when drilling beans.

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Allan In NE

07-06-2006 17:35:40

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

Yep,

I'm an old dog but I do learn. Hitchpin jumped out on me this spring and caused me to loose half a day repairing a disc that got loose.

I'll always hairpin 'em from now on.

Allan

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old

07-06-2006 17:49:44

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to Allan In NE, 07-06-2006 17:35:40

I will the next time I learned from this time LOL

Hobby farm

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Errin OH

07-06-2006 17:12:45

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

Did something like that with a hay wagon. As I came up to position it for backing in the barn, I use the skid loader to back them up, the bucket went down as I backed up over the edge of the drive. Pushed the pin right out. Rolled back down in front of the barn across, a lane, through a small parture, and right through the neighbors fence. Finally stopped after it got wire pulled off something like 20 wood post. You'd thought that sucker had a V8 in it given the speed it was going on such a little incline. I couldn't get the skid loader going fast enough to get behind it.

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aFORDable

07-06-2006 17:03:07

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to old, 07-06-2006 16:45:00

Yes Old, I'd say you had a lucky day and thankfully so. I guess everybody else was an even day because I canceled your luck out. I was being a good neighbor and bushwacking the roadside of my neighbor's field on the way back to my place and ran over a stob with my back tire. The tire, with 970 hours on it, punctured and split across the tread. $494 later I'm up and running again. That's an unlucky day but not necessarily a bad day when put in prespective of many worse things.

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Rustyj14

07-07-2006 20:22:11

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Re: Got very very lucky today in reply to aFORDable, 07-06-2006 17:03:07

Here near Pittsburgh, PA., a man was towing a wood chipper behind a dump truck, at about 45 mph, when it suddenly came unhooked, careened across a 4 lane hiway, hit a mini-van on the drivers side, tore out the whole side, and killed the driver and two of his triplet sons! Truck driver said he checked the tow hitch before he started out, but not the safety chains. He had taken pain pills (His term) that morning, so that probably affected his judgement as to his speed! The chipper was old and in poor condition, and, from the pix, it was an accident waiting to happen! Police said the chains were in bad shape, and the tow hitch was, too! Rustyj

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